The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[rich p]

David Millar, on the Spanish TV documentary linked to by Thom recently, said openly that he believed Indurain was doped on at least some of his wins. Big Mig hasn't responded as far as I'm aware.

 

[smutchin]

David Millar might say that. I couldn't possibly comment.

 

[Hont]

Amstrong has removed the "seven times Tour de France winner" statement from his biog on Twitter.*

*I do not follow nor have I ever followed him on Twitter. L'equipe are making a fuss about it:
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Armstrong-prend-acte/321565

 

[Dave Davenport]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-landis-and-hamilton-are-far-from-heroes

Pat, Pat, Pat! - Out, Out, Out!

(yes i know 'Maggie' scans better)

 

[Smokin Joe]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-landis-and-hamilton-are-far-from-heroes

Pat, Pat, Pat! - Out, Out, Out!

(yes i know 'Maggie' scans better)

Patsy, Patsy, Patsy! scans quite well.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

McQuaid says that Bjarne Riis is 'a bit like' Vaughters - yeah, in the same way that Lance Armstrong is 'a bit like' David Millar.

 

[raindog]

meanwhile........
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-armstrongs-influence-extends-beyond-sport
"Although Armstrong was unable to influence Obama to cut short his trip overseas, and the millions of people in his Livestrong army failed to sway the election, his political connections may have come in handy when it came to the federal grand jury which was looking into the same evidence that USADA used to strip him of his sporting reputation.
One source suggested to Roberts that Clinton himself swayed US Attorney Andre Briotte into suddenly closing down the 18-month investigation without reason on Superbowl Sunday, although the office denied its decision was the result of political pressure. But the closure did coincide with a large donation from Armstrong - $100,000 - to Planned Parenthood, provider of breast cancer screening to underprivileged women, which was coming under fire from conservatives."

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

So, Lance Armstrong ''deserves to be forgotten,'' does he?

I'd have thought that pro cycling deserves that Lance Armstrong should never be forgotten.

EDIT: just saw that that was more or less the opening question in the abc interview 3 posts below linked by Happiness Stan.

 

[Happiness Stan]

Has anyone listened to Phil Lidgett's latest ramblings? He's either uncovering the biggest sports-related conspiracy of all time or he's going insane. Either way it's all getting a bit weird and he is starting to scare me. As a footnote, the interviewer was awful, never did he challenge PL or ask him to explain or expand. he just let him ramble.


View: http://youtu.be/VJz4kwm9mXc

 

[Happiness Stan]

Sorry guys, from the caption at the beginning, I thought this was the latest news. It isn't.

 

[Happiness Stan]

Whoooa, he's changed his tune hasn't he? Sorry if I'm 50 odd pages behind all this.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-...tt-describes-armstrongs/4330226?section=sport

 

[Smokin Joe]

This is a great article by Robert Millar -

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar/the-bare-minimum

 

[400bhp]

I read Greg Lemond's wikipedia page earlier today. The guy really is a credit to sport.

"If Armstrong's clean, it's the greatest comeback. And if he's not, then it's the greatest fraud.

From my experience, he's not a nice guy and I've had some very difficult periods with him. And I don't believe he'll finish up having any friends in cycling

 

[ufkacbln]

Question is though whether Indurain's wins would be 'safe" if he were investigated?

Tygart and USADA are on record as saying that they would not have sought to strip all of Armstrong's wins, and that doing so was a "punishment" for not playing the game.

Now the WADA, USADA and UCI are talking of an Amnesty.

What are the chances of a quick "Mea Culpa", a confession, absolution, a short penance - reconciliation and retention the titles?

 

[smutchin]

This is a great article by Robert Millar -

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar/the-bare-minimum

That is indeed a great piece.

d.