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briantrumpet

Legendary Member
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I don't know what the precise definition of trolling is but if Red Light even now carries on protesting a mis-trial, lack of jurisdiction and miscarriage of justice then I'd suggest that comes pretty close.
Since I decided that Red Light is the intellectual alter ego of dennisn (from the 'other place'), I have no difficulty in finding his posts entertaining.
 

Panter

Just call me Chris...
Once you've all left, and the lights are off, I'm going to hang a Lance Armstrong poster on the wall :evil:
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
when I last looked and discussion of Lance Armstrong is on topic. I realise that you think "discussion" means "only discussion that FM agrees with" but that is not how public forums work I'm afraid.

You miss the point. And please don't start trying to pretend you are being victimized. It is the unattractive last resort of someone who cannot admit they are wrong. In that sense you have something in common with Lance Armstrong, at least.
 

philipbh

Spectral Cyclist
Location
Out the back
Well apart from the fact that those are decisions of CAS which are the ultimate arbiter in the case of disputed cases, but they do acknowledge the decision which is very different from saying they are not going to appeal the decision. Remember Pat is a lawyer and wording such as will not appeal will have a specific legal meaning.

This language is (IMO) entirely consistent within the context of arbitration in general (the point of which is to reach a resolution vs. endless and / or obfuscatory legal argument) and the CAS code in particular (see procedural rules R.46 R47 R48 and R49)

Parties either accept (or acknowledge) the ruling as final (as per code) or appeal the ruling (within 21 days) providing their legal grounds for appeal (although no additional evidence is allowable)

I dont think Mr President is being clever - just using the language of the process
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Fat lady isn't singing quite yet, there is still a teasing hint of more fun to come in the full decision

2. Recognition and implementation of the USADA decision
UCI will recognize and implement the decision of USADA, which implies that all competitive results achieved by Mr Armstrong in cycling since August 1, 1998 will be disqualified, including his seven Tour de France wins.

This recognition is subject to the following:

a. The recognition does not alter UCI’s position on the issue of the statute of
limitations as exposed above;

b. The recognition also depends on whether Mr Armstrong or WADA will appeal
USADA’s decision to CAS. If Mr Armstrong or WADA appeals to CAS, the UCI
must wait until CAS delivers its award: the USADA decision might be overruled in
whole or in part by CAS.

So my question is How long a period does LA have to appeal to CAS?
 

yello

Guest
Am I allowed to loose all semblance of patience now?
 
I really don't know why but I'll answer your points again.
The 'drivel' reference is to the fact that you have repeated ad nauseam that it's not just Armstrong. No-one has ever said it is. All bodies and riders should be scrutinised. No-one that I know of on here has ever said anything else.
Again I'll point out that it is you who have, rarely if ever, posted anywhere in Pro Race apart from Armstrong threads.
As to your childish 'throwing toys out of the pram' jibe I'll let go as being puerile by even your standards.

I suppose one can only really aspire to stand on the shoulders of a giant such as yourself with the erudite wit and charm.
 

Russell Allen

Well-Known Member
My biggest concern now is not LA but how we're going to bulk out this thread to reach the magic hundred pages..... I had hoped for something a little less categorical from the UCI.

Pat McQuaid's pontificating about how he wants to work towards cycling to be clean, how he has always been anti doping, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah were for me very hollow. It sounds very much like the argument that the current problems of the single European currency are a good reason for closer European integration .......The man is a spinner par excellence but I believe he is now on borrowed time ...... If he is still in charge in a years time I will be very surprised.

Lets not pull our punches here, if Pat McQuaid thought he could have fought the USADA decision he would have done, he is now in damage limitation/survival mode. The sooner the big teams and sponsors tell him he's part of the problem rather than the solution and force him out the better. His recent revelatory conversion will not be enough to save "saint Pat the apostle"

Russell
 
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My biggest concern now is not LA but how we're going to bulk out this thread to reach the magic hundred pages..... I had hoped for something a little less categorical from the UCI.

Pat McQuaid's pontificating about how he wants to work towards cycling to be clean, how he has always been anti doping, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah were for me very hollow. It sounds very much like the argument that the current problems of the single European currency are a good reason for closer European integration .......The man is a spinner par excellence but I believe he is now on borrowed time ...... If he is still in charge in a years time I will be very surprised.

Lets not pull our punches here, if Pat McQuaid thought he could have fought the USADA decision he would have done, he is now in damage limitation/survival mode. The sooner the big teams and sponsors tell him he's part of the problem rather than the solution and force him out the better. His recent revelatory conversion will not be enough to save "saint Pat the apostle"

Russell

But are the very teams that are the perpetrators of the doping scandals the best Jury?
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Boris Becker@Becker_Boris
"Don't hate the player,hate the game"is my comment about the whole L.Armstrong saga....
 
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