The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[DogTired]

I thought the wording interesting and precise given they could have used much simpler wording. From the statement on the UCI website:

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"The UCI confirms that it will not appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and that it will recognise the sanction that USADA has imposed."​

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It doesn't say it agrees with it or supports it, just that it will not contest it and will accept the resulting sanctions. A bit like Armstrong's no contest announcement. By no-contesting rather than accepting though they don't open any doors to civil liabilities.

There's no conspiracy or hidden meaning - its the terminology the UCI use in their press releases as in the 2 below from their web site. There's no subtext, secret messages or subtle codes.

06.02.2012
The UCI acknowledges the decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) to impose a suspension of 2 years on the rider Alberto Contador following the UCI’s appeal, brought in conjunction with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), in the case concerning the Spanish cyclist.

09.02.2012
The International Cycling Union (UCI) acknowledges the decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) to impose a suspension of 2 years on the rider Jan Ullrich starting retroactively on August 2011, following the UCI’s appeal. All results achieved by the athlete on or after 1 May 2005 until his retirement, on February 26, 2007, are annulled.

 

[Andrew_P]

Oakley have now pulled out, house!

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Red Light, give it up. It's over.

Armstrong is toast.

We can now move on to making sure that Verbruggen and McQuaid resign, and transforming the management of pro-cycling.

 

[DogTired]

Red Light, give it up. It's over.

Armstrong is toast.

We can now move on to making sure that Verbruggen and McQuaid resign, and transforming the management of pro-cycling.

The comment about still taking 'donations' from pro-cyclists was quite telling and there'll be a few raised eye-brows about that.

 

[Crosstrailer]

Red Light, give it up. It's over.

Armstrong is toast.

We can now move on to making sure that Verbruggen and McQuaid resign, and transforming the management of pro-cycling.

Well said.

I am reminded of that gentleman standing on the banks of the tigris announcing to the worlds press that the americans were committing suicide at the gates of Baghdad as two Abrams tanks rolled down the street on the other side of the river.......

 

[yello]

Well thank goodness that's all over then.

I think I've found my new signature line....

"Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling. He deserves to be forgotten." - Pat McQuaid

 

[ColinJ]

Who?

 

[Dave Davenport]

Right, as this thread's done & dusted who's starting the 'UCI reform' one?

 

[rich p]

I don't know what the precise definition of trolling is but if Red Light even now carries on protesting a mis-trial, lack of jurisdiction and miscarriage of justice then I'd suggest that comes pretty close.

 

[Crackle]

I think I'm now out of this thread too. Last one out, turn the light off.

 

[rich p]

Right, as this thread's done & dusted who's starting the 'UCI reform' one?

Something like this Dave?
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/reforming-the-uci.109762/

 

[Dave Davenport]

I thought that would happen.

 

[Red Light]

There's no conspiracy or hidden meaning - its the terminology the UCI use in their press releases as in the 2 below from their web site. There's no subtext, secret messages or subtle codes.

06.02.2012
The UCI acknowledges the decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) to impose a suspension of 2 years on the rider Alberto Contador following the UCI’s appeal, brought in conjunction with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), in the case concerning the Spanish cyclist.

09.02.2012
The International Cycling Union (UCI) acknowledges the decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) to impose a suspension of 2 years on the rider Jan Ullrich starting retroactively on August 2011, following the UCI’s appeal. All results achieved by the athlete on or after 1 May 2005 until his retirement, on February 26, 2007, are annulled.

Well apart from the fact that those are decisions of CAS which are the ultimate arbiter in the case of disputed cases, but they do acknowledge the decision which is very different from saying they are not going to appeal the decision. Remember Pat is a lawyer and wording such as will not appeal will have a specific legal meaning.

 

[DogTired]

Well apart from the fact that those are decisions of CAS which are the ultimate arbiter in the case of disputed cases, but they do acknowledge the decision which is very different from saying they are not going to appeal the decision. Remember Pat is a lawyer and wording such as will not appeal will have a specific legal meaning.

Your original point related to a lack of a specific statement of agreement from the UCI towards USADA and that is consistent with other UCI press releases as provided.

There is therefore no substance in your argument above.

 

[Red Light]

Red Light, give it up. It's over.

Armstrong is toast.

We can now move on to making sure that Verbruggen and McQuaid resign, and transforming the management of pro-cycling.

Feel free to start a new thread on that if you wish. Meanwhile this thread is still called "
The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.

when I last looked and discussion of Lance Armstrong is on topic. I realise that you think "discussion" means "only discussion that FM agrees with" but that is not how public forums work I'm afraid.