The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[Andrew_P]

Has Bruyneel folded? Last I could find was he was going to carry on fighting, maybe thats why there is a delay.

 

[smutchin]

This is just astonishing...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/108847964/Judgment-Floyd-Landis-En

 

[Cheddar George]

Hopefully there will be so much crap raining down on the UCI that the court case against Kimmage will be dropped.

 

[Oldspice]

let's just post our fave Lance Vids...

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6EX6qDIw4w&feature=related

That's a really nice Video. thanks for shareing.



PS I like Lance, although never watched him race, seems like a nice chap.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

The Swiss court's ruling was bizarre. They basically said that Landis can't accuse the UCI of any of the things that are in the USADA case against Armstrong et al. and which form part of the evidence in those cases, and which they haven't even seen. Defamation / Libel etc. is such bullshit.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

This is just astonishing...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/108847964/Judgment-Floyd-Landis-En

I think I've lost the capacity to be surprised by the UCI.

 

[rich p]

The Swiss court's ruling was bizarre. They basically said that Landis can't accuse the UCI of any of the things that are in the USADA case against Armstrong et al. and which form part of the evidence in those cases, and which they haven't even seen. Defamation / Libel etc. is such bulls***.

You have to laugh at this though from the Swiss court ruling

"It also prohibits Landis from calling the UCI "full of shoot", "clowns" and "liars"

I think we said something similar so I'm expecting a visit from the authorities any minute.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

You have to laugh at this though from the Swiss court ruling

"It also prohibits Landis from calling the UCI "full of s***", "clowns" and "liars"

I think we said something similar so I'm expecting a visit from the authorities any minute.

So, let's get this straight. If I were to say that the UCI was "full of shoot" and that they were "clowns" and "liars", then a Swiss court might try to force me to take an advert out to say that I would promise that I would never again say that the UCI was "full of shoot" and that they were "clowns" and "liars"?

That's scary. In that case, I will certainly not say that the UCI is "full of shoot" and that they are "clowns" and "liars".

I will just think it to myself.

Thank-you.

 

[Red Light]

The Swiss court's ruling was bizarre. They basically said that Landis can't accuse the UCI of any of the things that are in the USADA case against Armstrong et al. and which form part of the evidence in those cases, and which they haven't even seen. Defamation / Libel etc. is such bulls***.

It was a default judgement because Landis decided not to contest the charges just like Armstrong decided not to contest the charges against him. The case was filed in April 2011 so well before any of the latest USADA case came forward.

 

[Red Light]

So, let's get this straight. If I were to say that the UCI was "full of s***" and that they were "clowns" and "liars", then a Swiss court might try to force me to take an advert out to say that I would promise that I would never again say that the UCI was "full of s***" and that they were "clowns" and "liars"?

That's scary. In that case, I will certainly not say that the UCI is "full of s***" and that they are "clowns" and "liars".

I will just think it to myself.

Thank-you.

Not without giving you a chance to defend yourself and its unlikely unless you went to the newspapers and they printed your allegations. But yes its the law of libel/slander - you can't just go round saying things about people without them being demonstrably true.

 

[Red Light]

That politics buggered then.

Even in politics!

 

[smutchin]

The best part is his having to take an advert in which he says all the things he won't say. That has got to be some sort of legal joke.

Inrng has a good take on it - it's a warning from the Swiss courts that they won't allow the UCI to use them to do their dirty work...

http://inrng.com/2012/10/uci-are-not-terrorists/

d.

 

[PpPete]

if it’s forbidden to say McQuaid and Verbruggen are full of shoot, should we deduce they regularly use colonic irrigation?

pffft !

 

[Scoosh]

And if it’s forbidden to say McQuaid and Verbruggen are full of s***, should we deduce they regularly use colonic irrigation?

That is brilliant !

 

[Flying_Monkey]

It was a default judgement because Landis decided not to contest the charges just like Armstrong decided not to contest the charges against him. The case was filed in April 2011 so well before any of the latest USADA case came forward.

I knew you'd say that, but they are really not alike at all apart from at the most superficial level. For an interesting insight into why, I would read about Greg Lemond's experience.