The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[GrumpyGregry]

There is no greater tribute for a Fanboy to the legend of LA than to lop off a perfectly functioning nut.

I have four perfectly functioning nuts.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

It appears the UCI are getting stressy....

 

[Buddfox]

It's things like this that make me despair at the UCI. What an utterly unnecessary and antagonistic press release. Just keep this sh*t behind closed doors please.

 

[Red Light]

It's things like this that make me despair at the UCI. What an utterly unnecessary and antagonistic press release. Just keep this sh*t behind closed doors please.

In the light of:

"The UCI has requested USADA to provide its decision and case file and has learnt of the reported delays through the media and not by any official communication from USADA"​

​

perhaps not.

 

[rich p]

It's things like this that make me despair at the UCI. What an utterly unnecessary and antagonistic press release. Just keep this sh*t behind closed doors please.

It beggars belief that the organisation that keeps bleating on that they are in the forefront of fighting doping, seems to be doing their utmost to undermine the organisation that actually is. Shut the fark up Pat and wait for it to arrive!

 

[ufkacbln]

So USADA have confirmed they will release their report by the 15th October. At least we know how long we have to wait now...! From the BBC:

Usada's Annie Skinner said her organisation was "in the process of finalising the written reasoned decision in its US Postal Services pro cycling doping case"."

Very interesting, that is a massive change from prosecuting a single cyclist.

 

[ufkacbln]

So is he getting five of his Tour wins back? Travis said he could if he admitted it

Pedantically, he can't get them back as they haven't actually been removed yet!

 

[Red Light]

Pedantically, he can't get them back as they haven't actually been removed yet!

Even more pedantically its not known whether they've actually been removed yet because USADA and UCI have different views on whose jurisdiction the decision is.

 

[beastie]

Even more pedantically its not known whether they've actually been removed yet because USADA and UCI have different views on whose jurisdiction the decision is.

Actually they have not been removed until ratified by UCI. Won't belong now though

 

[just jim]

So to recap, Lance doped. Sorry to be pedantic.

 

[beastie]

No one read Walsh in the ST yet?

 

[ufkacbln]

Actually they have not been removed until ratified by UCI. Won't belong now though

If they ever get the evidence?

 

[ufkacbln]

So to recap, Lance doped. Sorry to be pedantic.

That is the subtle swing on the USADA's part.

Whereas before this was about Lance Armstrong, and the dossier was the evidence about his actions, failures and use of PEDs, the dossier is apparently no longer specifically about him at all, but to quote USADA the dossier is now the "US Postal Services pro cycling doping case"

It will be interesting if the evidence is about the whole team, whether the amnesties given to some rider will also be supported by the UCI, or whether they act upon the evidence on the other riders and participants.

 

[ufkacbln]

No one read Walsh in the ST yet?

Factually inaccurate about the wins though.?

The interesting tisng though is how much of the widespread issues are closed down to a personal level again.

The cyclist had been a very successful amateur rider but his professional career was overshadowed by his refusal to take drugs and remain quiet about it.

It was not Armstrong as a single rider, but a culture throughout the Peleton.

Once again, let's use the Armstrong case as a key and unlock the box, see who else is dirty and take action fairly and equally across the board for all those who are guilty.

If that means censuring other riders, and removing Pantani's win (or others) then why not?

 

[Flying_Monkey]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-armstrongs-ex-wife-involved-in-doping-scheme