Smokin Joe
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I think "The same tired old Lance Armstrong discussion thread" would be more accurate.
The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*
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mickle
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<Mod hat on again - it's getting a bit too familiar ...]
Careful now - and keep it on topic, please.
If you two (Greg and Mickle) wish to carry on a running thread, please do it by PM.
Ex cuse me?! This is a thread about Lance Armstrong which i started with the plea for a bit of sanity. Gregs suggestion that the damage caused by doping in cycling is in any way comparible to, or acceptable because ,boxers routinely suffer head trauma is as irrelevent to this conversation as it is fatuous. Its typical of the incessant tedious trolling which has driven away the people who wanted to have a decent discussion on this subject. The most significant event thats ever occurred in pro cycling. Srsly.
The best way to treat posts which you consider to be 'irrelevant ... fatuous' is to ignore them. Don't respond to them. Let them hang there, unheeded and unloved. Srsly.
I am not making any comment nor observation about whether the posts were 'irrelevant .... fatuous' - just making a suggestion on how to continue the thread in the manner in which you and others wish it so to do.
I am attempting to be neutral here, as I always try so to be. I'm not perfect (but you know that already
) but I do want to keep things going along in discussion mode, rather than have them heading to bickering mode. 
Please try to understand and assist.
Thanks.
It gets worse - this is ourageous from the head of the UCI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/ucis-mcquaid-loses-usada-testimoney-in-irish-pub/
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/ucis-mcquaid-loses-usada-testimoney-in-irish-pub/
GrumpyGregry
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No point. FM has, elsewhere, already decreed the case against it to be completely unarguable.To be honest Greg, if you want to discuss your perfectly valid and possibly even defensible ( maybe
Like you I'm rather tired of the accusations of trolling, and the implication that I'm presenting views that I don't actually hold simply for the sake of argument. Folk here can't seem to understand the difference between 21stC professional sport and their 19thC Corinthian sporting ideals, nor can they understand analogy, engage in discussion on moral equivalence, or debate by means other than one word snipes and demands that folk be banned. This is what 'hard-core' expert and informed pro-cycling fans are like these days is it? Jebus.
Meanwhile racers still dope, employ banned doctors, and do everything they can to stay one step ahead of the testers.
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
I shall have a read of that.
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
I dunno. I've lost a few things in the Stag's Head over the years.
I'd be fairly sure USADA have a photocopier and a secure email system.
Pfffffttt!
Now if I was a conspiracy theorist.....
Still, we should get to see the evidence now or careful snippets of it.
A mistake or a deliberate way of getting the documents into the public domain without officially releasing them? Let the media argue your case for you rather than have a UCI/USADA battle over it? It seems odd that someone would steal a pack of documents in a plain envelope or that a plain envelope would be anywhere than in a briefcase - and it certainly doesn't say that that or other documents were stolen.
Flying_Monkey
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You do all realise that article is satirical, don't you?
(i.e. it's not actually true).
(i.e. it's not actually true).
Flying_Monkey
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I suppose it just goes to illustrate what people think of Fat Pat that they'd swallow this one!I know...
