The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[david k]

I did think you were a fan of nannying. Many sports damage the long-term health prospects of the participants to a greater or lesser degree, often via actions which are intrinsic to the enjoyment of the sport by participants and spectator alike. Yet society is happy for these sports to continue.

Morally what is the difference between someone, I dunno, getting brain damage from being repeatedly punched in the head in a boxing ring versus getting an equivalent injury from doping on a bike?

you can cycle and avoid doping, its part of the challenge of boxing

 

[mickle]

I did think you were a fan of nannying. Many sports damage the long-term health prospects of the participants to a greater or lesser degree, often via actions which are intrinsic to the enjoyment of the sport by participants and spectator alike. Yet society is happy for these sports to continue.

Morally what is the difference between someone, I dunno, getting brain damage from being repeatedly punched in the head in a boxing ring versus getting an equivalent injury from doping on a bike?

Genius.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

We need to consider the relative qualities of the freedom of choice here.

No. It is far easier to simple dismiss points of view other than our own with gems like

Genius.

which, of course, carries the day.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Can we have the word "Improved" removed from the thread title?

 

[mickle]

No. It is far easier to simple dismiss points of view other than our own with gems like

which, of course, carries the day.

If it really was your point of view you might have a point.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

If it really was your point of view you might have a point.

I have a point, all of my very own, but I can't help it if the narrow-minded can't see it.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

you can cycle and avoid doping, its part of the challenge of boxing

actually, it doesn't have to be, amateur boxers rarely if ever get brain damage and neither do bare knuckle fighters.. It's all about how a sport is designed by the folk that regulate/govern it, and no one is compelled to take part, it's all done on the basis of a presumption of informed consent.

 

[david k]

actually, it doesn't have to be, amateur boxers rarely if ever get brain damage and neither do bare knuckle fighters.. It's all about how a sport is designed by the folk that regulate/govern it, and no one is compelled to take part, it's all done on the basis of a presumption of informed consent.

still different to doping

 

[mickle]

I have a point, all of my very own, but I can't help it if the narrow-minded can't see it.

No need to be rude.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

No need to be rude.

Now mickle, that is a pot talking to a kettle.

 

[Scoosh]

<Mod hat on again> - it's getting a bit too familiar ...

Careful now - and keep it on topic, please.

If you two (Greg and Mickle ) wish to carry on a running thread, please do it by PM.

 

[rich p]

To be honest Greg, if you want to discuss your perfectly valid and possibly even defensible ( maybe ) point of view it might be best starting another thread on it.

 

[just jim]

Lance has made a recent appearance in public. Notice that the sound cuts out just as he says the words "seven times". Have the media, like USADA, conspired to stifle Lance and his achievements?

Naw.


View: http://youtu.be/539qgaopynE

 

[ufkacbln]

actually, it doesn't have to be, amateur boxers rarely if ever get brain damage and neither do bare knuckle fighters.. It's all about how a sport is designed by the folk that regulate/govern it, and no one is compelled to take part, it's all done on the basis of a presumption of informed consent.

My department did some research into the cerebral blood perfusion in the brain and showed that even amateur boxers after a feew fights have areas of the brain that have a damaged blood supply.

 

[ufkacbln]

Can we have the word "Improved" removed from the thread title?

Would the "The new enhanced Lance Armstrong discussion thread" be better?