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Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
I quite like the white away top.

The orange and blue one is awful. I was actually surprised the teams were both allowed to turn out in stripes.

I remember a late 1970s evening fixture between Notts County and Sheffield United with both teams wearing black and white stripes plus the added red strips for Sheffield. For those watching in black and white Sheffield have the slightly wider dark stripes!
 

SpokeyDokey

67, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I guess it's hard to turn down the kind of money on offer from the Saudis, still it's good to see some players are motivated by more than just a big paycheck.
Ramsey to Cardiff

Considering Henderson was on 7-8 million a year at Liverpool for a good may years, how much money do you actually need? Looks like his support for the pride movement, which he spoke about last year, is secondary to the Saudi money.

Greedy young men paid by greedy masters in a greedy business sector.

Mind you, if I was that age and a supremely talented footballer I'd do the same tbh.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Last year's National League top scorer, Macaulay Langstaff, has signed an extension to 2017 at Notts County. Thinks that's more the club making sure they get ££££££ for him.
 
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PaulSB

Squire
At Ewood last Saturday we played 7 minutes extra time in the first half and nine in the second. None of us could see where the 7 came from but did note WBA made a real meal of getting three second-half subs on at once - "forgot" to give the numbers to the fourth official - and that alone took 4/5 minutes.

I didn't know about the rule change so read up about it at home. Last night against Walsall we had five minutes extra time at the end of the first half. I was at a loss to see where that came from.

For the second half I used the stopwatch on my phone to time what I thought were long stoppages or pauses. I clocked 8 minutes 8 seconds. The fourth official awarded 8 minutes.

Rovers third goal took 70 seconds from being scored to Walsall kicking off again. The fourth took 45 seconds. At one point a Walsall player argued long and hard with the referee. He was booked. I'm beginning to see where this is going.

I suspect teams that complain at conceding in 98th minute will quickly learn there is a penalty to time wasting. The solution is simple for the managers and players, if you don't like it stop cheating.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
I suspect teams that complain at conceding in 98th minute will quickly learn there is a penalty to time wasting. The solution is simple for the managers and players, if you don't like it stop cheating.
or manage the game better... if you're 1 up with 10 to go, keep the ball, use your skill pass it around, legitimately run down the clock, play the ball up and then back around. One of my favourites in hockey (which doesn't translate too well with multi-balls in football) is if the oppo are all pressing forward is to play a "pass" into the far corner so either one of their player has to peg it pack to retrieve it or the keeper has to waddle over in his pads and kickers to get it
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
At Ewood last Saturday we played 7 minutes extra time in the first half and nine in the second. None of us could see where the 7 came from but did note WBA made a real meal of getting three second-half subs on at once - "forgot" to give the numbers to the fourth official - and that alone took 4/5 minutes.

I didn't know about the rule change so read up about it at home. Last night against Walsall we had five minutes extra time at the end of the first half. I was at a loss to see where that came from.

For the second half I used the stopwatch on my phone to time what I thought were long stoppages or pauses. I clocked 8 minutes 8 seconds. The fourth official awarded 8 minutes.

Rovers third goal took 70 seconds from being scored to Walsall kicking off again. The fourth took 45 seconds. At one point a Walsall player argued long and hard with the referee. He was booked. I'm beginning to see where this is going.

I suspect teams that complain at conceding in 98th minute will quickly learn there is a penalty to time wasting. The solution is simple for the managers and players, if you don't like it stop cheating.

I've already heard a couple of players moaning the extra time will be too taxing on them.

Cheating for advantage is one thing, but if you cannot even complete the game without cheating you shouldn't be playing.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
At Ewood last Saturday we played 7 minutes extra time in the first half and nine in the second. None of us could see where the 7 came from but did note WBA made a real meal of getting three second-half subs on at once - "forgot" to give the numbers to the fourth official - and that alone took 4/5 minutes.

I didn't know about the rule change so read up about it at home. Last night against Walsall we had five minutes extra time at the end of the first half. I was at a loss to see where that came from.

For the second half I used the stopwatch on my phone to time what I thought were long stoppages or pauses. I clocked 8 minutes 8 seconds. The fourth official awarded 8 minutes.

Rovers third goal took 70 seconds from being scored to Walsall kicking off again. The fourth took 45 seconds. At one point a Walsall player argued long and hard with the referee. He was booked. I'm beginning to see where this is going.

I suspect teams that complain at conceding in 98th minute will quickly learn there is a penalty to time wasting. The solution is simple for the managers and players, if you don't like it stop cheating.

Our game on Saturday, the opposition started time wasting 10 minutes in. I kid ye not.
 

Slick

Guru
Come on Rangers. 🇬🇧
 

PaulSB

Squire
or manage the game better... if you're 1 up with 10 to go, keep the ball, use your skill pass it around, legitimately run down the clock, play the ball up and then back around. One of my favourites in hockey (which doesn't translate too well with multi-balls in football) is if the oppo are all pressing forward is to play a "pass" into the far corner so either one of their player has to peg it pack to retrieve it or the keeper has to waddle over in his pads and kickers to get it

Years of watching Rovers throw away wins or draws in the final seconds tells me game management doesn't work at Ewood!!!!! 🤣 Just how entertaining 10 minutes of game management will be remains to be seen.

It's early days but our first two games have highlighted to me just how much time is "lost" during a match, some of it deliberate time wasting, some just happens.

On Tuesday it took 70 seconds for Walsall to kick off after we scored. I've really no idea if that's a reasonable time or not? If 8 players are in the opposition half when their side scores at least a couple are going to be around the penalty area. Just over a minute for both teams to set up for kick off doesn't seem excessive.

A Walsall player spent a couple of minutes arguing with and being booked by the referee. Adding that time seems reasonable. None of the substitutions took long, certainly not the 30 seconds automatically added under the rules.

I don't know the answer to this but if 15-16 minutes of added time becomes the norm it's going to influence results.

If players and managers don't like it the answer is clear don't waste time by cheating. This would help minimise the added time.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Yes, for a few years now.

Yep, I saw that, promoted in 2020. I remember a few years back being surprised when Yeovil suddenly appeared in Rovers fixture list. I well remember Yeovil Town as a feared giant-killer with the famous sloping pitch. Did they play at The Huish? I didn't know they'd reached the Championship till I suddenly saw we had fixtures against them.
 
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