The CycleChat Large SUV Owners Club thread

[Richard A Thackeray]

Forgot something else from yesterday
Whilst l was driving up Edgerton Road/A629, in Huddersfield

A (full size) Range-Rover (‘74’ plate?) turned in front of me, into a side-street
Was it my imagination, or do they have ‘rear-steer’ now?

If so, it’s one way of disguising the size of them, when manoeuvring/parking

 

[Venod]

View: https://youtu.be/pRxM_itLyRQ?si=gyL0zmYzwYoax4_h

 

[Drago]

View: https://youtu.be/pRxM_itLyRQ?si=gyL0zmYzwYoax4_h

If Toyota or Hobda did that I be thinking, "great stuff!"

JLR do it and I think to myself, "that's going to cost a packet when it inevitably breaks."

 

[DRM]

P6 was about 135 (I had one), SD1 about 155 in cooking trim with carbs.

I don't know why the engine was derated for the stage 1, but it assuredly was...

https://www.stage1v8.org.uk/tech/Factory_Spec_Frame.html

IIRC it was a big drop in compression ratio and smaller Stromberg carbs instead of SUs. Possibly done to make it more tolerant of lower quality fuel when used abroad, but that's just a guess.

Plus, iirc it would have better/more usable torque, with less power, or perhaps that's just nonsense that has stuck in my mind

 

[Drago]

I'm not sure about more torque but it would probably be less peaky and, as you say, more useable. The Rover V8 was never an ideal engine for this sort of vehicle, at least not an everyday one used by grownups.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

P6 was about 135 (I had one), SD1 about 155 in cooking trim with carbs.

I don't know why the engine was derated for the stage 1, but it assuredly was...

https://www.stage1v8.org.uk/tech/Factory_Spec_Frame.html

IIRC it was a big drop in compression ratio and smaller Stromberg carbs instead of SUs. Possibly done to make it more tolerant of lower quality fuel when used abroad, but that's just a guess.

To cope with lower grade fuel, plus a lower compression ratio
There were also airflow restrictors in place

Even with the introduction of the ‘One-Ten’ & front discs, it was still restricted to 114BHP
Later models, like my old ‘E plated’ 90CSW-V8 had SU carbs & 134BHP

EDIT @ 18:20
There's a feature about the low performance of a Stage 1, in the present issue of https://www.landrovermonthly.co.uk, but my copy's in my locker at work, & I'm on annual-leave till 5th March

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

LS3 engined (Corvette/6.2 litre - Yanks use the same measurement, unlike their gallon), with a 2.7litre displacement supercharger (bigger than the original diesel!)
Looks like one of the Mahker machines?

https://mahker.com/


View: https://youtu.be/Ho0nEuSwPjw?si=HZp3-1N-O4VhUeFa


@Drago
Buy one for a project XC90? (there was a petrol V8 version, wasn't there?)
https://roadcraftuk.co.uk/product/ls3-crate-engine-495hp/

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Well, at least it's not written by Clarkson

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/byway-not-highway-why-you-should-take-your-4x4-road

 

[DRM]

Well, at least it's not written by Clarkson

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/byway-not-highway-why-you-should-take-your-4x4-road

Trouble with that is, he doesn't tell of the joys of being banned from the car wash, for dumping mud all over, breaking your car, so you can't get to work on monday in it, plus the cost of parts, getting stuck on the moors, where you either do a self recovery, or it's a long walk to civilisation, getting wading wrong & really wrecking your car, seen it all with unsuitable SUV's causing more trouble than it's worth on a B.O.A.T or at pay & play centres

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

@DRM

'Unsuitable vehicles'.... after listening to the sales-staff?!
"This ......... will go anywhere!"

More particularly the idiots treating byways/unsurfaced roads as ‘pay & play’ sites, when the probable surface conditions, in bad weather, ought to be enough to make the sensible users keep away
Plus poor drainage

It was one of the reasons that vehicular rights were removed from Ramsden Lane/etc, at the Yorkshire side/base of HolmeMoss

I’ve driven them myself in the past, but certainly not in winter

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4761457

EDIT @ 11:22

On a very dry day, as (I think?) a natural spring didn't help on that section (top photo is Ramsden Lane, heading down to Kilnbent Lane & Ridings Wood Reservoir)

The second photo was, I think, the byway at Shatton Moor;https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3008643
The third is possibly 'Scaley-Gate' (just south of Jackson Bridge?)

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

That’s a ‘busy tailgate’, all 4 corners!!

Isuzu Rodeo Denver (& engine designation)

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Thursday 20th


‘The real deal’?
Seen whilst walking the dog earlier this afternoon

https://devon4x4.com/

 

[Gunk]

"that's going to cost a packet when it inevitably breaks."

and it will

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Saturday 22nd

En-route to/home from Go Outdoors, at Horbury Bridge, I saw an 'unmolested'/unaltered Toyota Hi-Lux, as a single-cab, on a 'H' registration
Sorry no photograph, traffic didn't really allow for a stop

It is local to that specific area, as I've seen it before (& others have mentioned it to me)

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

To cope with lower grade fuel, plus a lower compression ratio
There were also airflow restrictors in place

Even with the introduction of the ‘One-Ten’ & front discs, it was still restricted to 114BHP
Later models, like my old ‘E plated’ 90CSW-V8 had SU carbs & 134BHP

EDIT @ 18:20
There's a feature about the low performance of a Stage 1, in the present issue of https://www.landrovermonthly.co.uk, but my copy's in my locker at work, & I'm on annual-leave till 5th March

I remembered about this when the relevant magazine fell out of my locker