The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

[ufkacbln]

Now add the rest of the post?

This will not actually form ice.......

Simply cools it to a low temperature, close to freezing, it then warms as you travel, and provides a cool evaporating head wear, solving the problem asked

 

[EnPassant]

Now add the rest of the post?

This will not actually form ice.......

Simply cools it to a low temperature, close to freezing, it then warms as you travel, and provides a cool evaporating head wear, solving the problem asked

If you don't like the idea for cycling one could always use it for posting. I learned a long while ago and in another place that on the internet 'cooler heads will prevail'.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I just stopped at the scene of a cyclist, victim of a hit and run. WPC in attendance, no serious looking injuries - the woman was sitting - she assured me an ambulance was on its way and continued...

''...she did say the helmet saved her life, you might think of buying one...''
''I've got one, no, I've got two but when people are allowed to drive like that and get away scot free, a helmet's not going to be much use.'''
She didn't press the case....

 

[ufkacbln]

I just stopped at the scene of a cyclist, victim of a hit and run. WPC in attendance, no serious looking injuries - the woman was sitting - she assured me an ambulance was on its way and continued...

''...she did say the helmet saved her life, you might think of buying one...''
''I've got one, no, I've got two but when people are allowed to drive like that and get away scot free, a helmet's not going to be much use.'''
She didn't press the case....

Posted before... but

We were on a study day, Ironically on "evidence based practice"

One of the younger people had the audacity to cycle in without a helmet, and was literally "harangued" by one of the lecturers during the coffee break for not wearing one

Then at lunchtime she started again....

So I asked what evidence she was basing it on, was it Rivara and Thompson?

She had never heard of them and replied that it was "common sense"!

Disliked even more being asked whether "common sense" constituted "evidence based practice"

Apparently in the case of helmets, it is so clear that you don't actually need evidence .......... so much for the study day

 

[Profpointy]

Posted before... but

We were on a study day, Ironically on "evidence based practice"

One of the younger people had the audacity to cycle in without a helmet, and was literally "harangued" by one of the lecturers during the coffee break for not wearing one

Then at lunchtime she started again....

So I asked what evidence she was basing it on, was it Rivara and Thompson?

She had never heard of them and replied that it was "common sense"!

Disliked even more being asked whether "common sense" constituted "evidence based practice"

Apparently in the case of helmets, it is so clear that you don't actually need evidence .......... so much for the study day

that tale is an absolute corker. I've been angrily harangued by a friend who's a consultant surgeon and the whole evidence question just makes her angrier. Maybe next time I'll try and smooth things over a bit - perhaps something like "I do accept that medics tend not to very numerate, but a it's worth trying to understand basic statistics". I'm sure that'll help a bit.

 

[Roxy641]

I can't eat chocolate

Sorry to hear that mjr.

 

[MarquisMatsugae]

Don't try and be "different".Don't think you are a rebel because you don't wear a helmet.
Wear a helmet and stop being one.
Don't die of ignorance.
Or Aids.

 

[Mugshot]

Don't try and be "different".Don't think you are a rebel because you don't wear a helmet.
Wear a helmet and stop being one.
Don't die of ignorance.
Or Aids.

Eh?

 

[mjr]

Eh?

I think the suggestion is that the non-helmet-using majority of British cyclists are rebels

 

[Mugshot]

Rebel Snell?

 

[Justinslow]

Errm; YOU were the one suggesting that pads are removable and able to be cleaned! I was just making the point that it would be a PITA mid-ride after a stop, which is the point in a ride at which I find cold, sweaty pads uncomfortable.....

Just thought I'd report back, I cleaned my pads on Saturday for the first time in two years, didn't really make a lot of difference, still hardly realised I had it on, just as before.........

 

[MarquisMatsugae]

I think the suggestion is that the non-helmet-using majority of British cyclists are rebels

What makes you think you are in the majority ?

 

[Mugshot]

What makes you think you are in the majority ?

What makes you think that non wearers think they are "rebels" or "trying to be different"?

 

[mjr]

What makes you think you are in the majority ?

Every credible published statistic, including some from pro-helmet organisations.

 

[Roxy641]

Don't try and be "different".Don't think you are a rebel because you don't wear a helmet.
Wear a helmet and stop being one.
Don't die of ignorance.
Or Aids.

In answer to the kind of "Why do you want to be different" ?

Answer: "Why do you want to be the same as everyone else" ?