The Bassist and Guitarist thread

[rogerzilla]

Also known s "Metallica".

Or "jazz"

 

[MontyVeda]

Decided that i needed to add a phaser to the effects chain. After watching a few YT reviews and demos, i decided on the TCelectronics Blood Moon and found a used one on ebay for under £20. The seller also had an inexpensive delay pedal which, after watching a few YT demos I decided I had to have it. Two delays is going to be interesting

 

[Drago]

In thinking of an envelope filter pedal for a bit of fun.

 

[MontyVeda]

The new pedals arrived yesterday. The blood moon phaser is like a house brick and dwarfs the other pedals on the board. It sounds great though. The new Tap Delay is awesome with its max 2 seconds of delay which compared to the .6secs on my Yellow Fall (also by Donner), feels huge and with everything maxed out (echo vol, repeats, time)... it literally goes on for well over a minute and never goes into self oscillation. The Yellow Fall starts to self oscillate if the feedback is higher than 2 the o'clock mark. It's an odd shape though and squeezing that and the brick onto my modest pedal board is not straight forward.

 

[Electric_Andy]

The new pedals arrived yesterday. The blood moon phaser is like a house brick and dwarfs the other pedals on the board. It sounds great though. The new Tap Delay is awesome with its max 2 seconds of delay which compared to the .6secs on my Yellow Fall (also by Donner), feels huge and with everything maxed out (echo vol, repeats, time)... it literally goes on for well over a minute and never goes into self oscillation. The Yellow Fall starts to self oscillate if the feedback is higher than 2 the o'clock mark. It's an odd shape though and squeezing that and the brick onto my modest pedal board is not straight forward.

I do like effects but find myself playing with them more as a toy than actually using them in songwriting. I have a Digitech RP-55 which I got on Ebay for £7, which has some great distortion sounds but the rest of the effects sound quite bright and inorganic. My mate has a Line6 Helix which are about £1500 but apparently are super. If I can afford it, I'm looking at a Valetone GP-200 which seems to do Amp modelling very well (more useful to me for recording than fx alone). Or perhaps one of the older Boss ME range (50, 70, 80). But from watching all the reviews, the Valeton gives more bang for buck, and has audio interface trickery as well

 

[MontyVeda]

I do like effects but find myself playing with them more as a toy than actually using them in songwriting. I have a Digitech RP-55 which I got on Ebay for £7, which has some great distortion sounds but the rest of the effects sound quite bright and inorganic. My mate has a Line6 Helix which are about £1500 but apparently are super. If I can afford it, I'm looking at a Valetone GP-200 which seems to do Amp modelling very well (more useful to me for recording than fx alone). Or perhaps one of the older Boss ME range (50, 70, 80). But from watching all the reviews, the Valeton gives more bang for buck, and has audio interface trickery as well

I have a digitech RP80 and the effects are all terrible. The novelty if its 'effects' wore off in days after buying the sodding little thing. It turned me off multi effects units because just altering the length of a delay means pressing three buttons a dozen times as opposed to just turning a knob on a dedicated pedal. It is a toy and a whole world away in sound and usability from even the inexpensive pedals.

There's a YT channel called sixty cycle hum that does an 'afford-a-board' series of reviews on the (many) budget pedals available. They appear impartial because he will sneer at some cheap sh!tty effects, unlike Andertons' reviews in which every pedal is awesome because they want you to buy it from them.

Whilst there is a convenience to the all-in-one multi effects units... you get everything all at once and don't know what you've got or why you might want/need it. Dedicated pedals you build up one by one over time and you know why you want those effects. But saying that, individual pedals are a PITA because once there's four or five you start thinking Pedal Board and those can be costly and/or time consuming if you go my route and build your own.

 

[Electric_Andy]

I have a digitech RP80 and the effects are all terrible. The novelty if its 'effects' wore off in days after buying the sodding little thing. It turned me off multi effects units because just altering the length of a delay means pressing three buttons a dozen times as opposed to just turning a knob on a dedicated pedal. It is a toy and a whole world away in sound and usability from even the inexpensive pedals.

There's a YT channel called sixty cycle hum that does an 'afford-a-board' series of reviews on the (many) budget pedals available. They appear impartial because he will sneer at some cheap sh!tty effects, unlike Andertons' reviews in which every pedal is awesome because they want you to buy it from them.

Whilst there is a convenience to the all-in-one multi effects units... you get everything all at once and don't know what you've got or why you might want/need it. Dedicated pedals you build up one by one over time and you know why you want those effects. But saying that, individual pedals are a PITA because once there's four or five you start thinking Pedal Board and those can be costly and/or time consuming if you go my route and build your own.

I do like some cheap pedals. I have a Behringer ultra metal pedal and it sounds brilliant, £23 new

 

[Drago]

I do like some cheap pedals. I have a Behringer ultra metal pedal and it sounds brilliant, £23 new

It should do. Behringer simply reverse engjneer other company's products, usually Boss.

 

[Electric_Andy]

It should do. Behringer simply reverse engjneer other company's products, usually Boss.

Yes I believe most of the overdrive/distortion pedals are just clones of others, but they still sound great and are very cheap. they are cheaply made of course, so probably wouldn't last on stage for long, but for home use they're great. Distortion must be easy to do though, because their other pedals are shocking. I've seen/heard reviews on some like the Tremelo and Flanger and they were very poor. I also bought the compressor/limiter and the Octover and there was more noise than effect. Thankfully sent back for a full refund

 

[FishFright]

It should do. Behringer simply reverse engjneer other company's products, usually Boss.

They are currently doing the same with analogue synths and old school drum machines. At very decent prices.

 

[MontyVeda]

They are currently doing the same with analogue synths and old school drum machines. At very decent prices.

their SH-101 clone looks great... pretty much the same as a Roland but with added Midi and other gubbins, and about £600 cheaper than a 2nd hand 101.

 

[winjim]

their SH-101 clone looks great... pretty much the same as a Roland but with added Midi and other gubbins, and about £600 cheaper than a 2nd hand 101.

Crave and Edge are a lot of fun. I'm hoping to add Spice and Grind when I can afford to but I'm skint at the moment so they'll have to wait.

 

[FrothNinja]

Just got a MIJ Impact branded Tele-ish copy. All good, plays well but.....
....the grommet/sleeve things that go round the tuning posts have been replaced by these white plastic discs. The posts themselves are pulled onto the wood under tension from the strings (wound onto the posts the wrong way round!)
Struggling to find anything about Impact beyond mentions on old Reverb listings saying the name was used on Teisco or Jedson imports twixt 1969 & 1975. Anyone know of a source of info about the brand?
Secondly, more importantly, can anyone point me toward somewhere I can source the parts to sort the tuning posts??
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Been searching a while now but can't find a source for ferrules/bushings with ext diam 7.78mm, int diam 6mm, let alone ones with a 12.7 or 14mm diam 'cap'. Closest I can find are 8mm with 6mm and an 11mm cap. Have tried one set and sent it back because the seller couldn't tell the difference between 10mm and 8mm.
Not keen on widening the holes, but I may have to. On the plus side the 8mm don't cost an absolute fortune and hopefully other suppliers actually know their products dimensions.

 

[Drago]

Yes I believe most of the overdrive/distortion pedals are just clones of others, but they still sound great and are very cheap. they are cheaply made of course, so probably wouldn't last on stage for long, but for home use they're great. Distortion must be easy to do though, because their other pedals are shocking. I've seen/heard reviews on some like the Tremelo and Flanger and they were very poor. I also bought the compressor/limiter and the Octover and there was more noise than effect. Thankfully sent back for a full refund

I've got the bass compressor-limiter and have no noise issues. Ditto the BD21 and bass overdrive.

 

[MontyVeda]

rejigged the pedal board to accommodate the two new effects, which meant buying a pack of low-profile patch leads and making 14 little metal clamps to replace the wooden ones. The order on the board bears little resemblance to the actual chain of effects. I'm quite liking the spaghetti aesthetic though.

There's no power to the OD because I only have an 8-way daisy chain. Waiting for a 10-way to be delivered.

I have now banned myself from buying any more pedals.