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keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
October's newsletter for Monday night bedtime reading....
https://s.docworkspace.com/d/AAWKfAzpxq8au7iUkZSdFA
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
Enjoyed reading newsletter 👍
As a newbie I don’t think my opinion should count on the bots and ghosts but here goes 😁-
They add contestants if there isn’t many in it what is a plus
I guess you can draft them a bit and sway the results as they don’t respond what some could see a minus
Me - I really don’t care , i am just enjoying it.
the tactics seem different to ‘ the other side ‘ and I am still learning
It’s good that I have certain people I am trying to attack while having a target on my own back 😁
 

BKIain

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the newsletter, I don't mind 2 or 3 bots/ghosts. You sometimes get lucky and have a bit of a race with them when you're detached from the group, but as shim says, too many and they clog the leaderboard up and I want to see if he's getting any nearer or pulling away!
 

AndyMacca

Senior Member
Location
UK
I'm feeling more brutal :laugh:
Bots clog up the leader-board and the only circumstance I can see them being useful in is closing the group up to make racing better but as their behaviour can't be dictated to them as well as we'd need for that I think it's probably better to get rid of them, at least for the time being. Unless we could agree on a level to set them at which kept them off the front!?
Ghosts, if they represented their original times correctly would be useful especially if we could switch them off from the leader-board, but as neither feature is correct/available then I'd again say get rid for now.
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
I'm feeling more brutal :laugh:
Bots clog up the leader-board and the only circumstance I can see them being useful in is closing the group up to make racing better but as their behaviour can't be dictated to them as well as we'd need for that I think it's probably better to get rid of them, at least for the time being. Unless we could agree on a level to set them at which kept them off the front!?
Ghosts, if they represented their original times correctly would be useful especially if we could switch them off from the leader-board, but as neither feature is correct/available then I'd again say get rid for now.
I completely agree which is why i didn't want to be the first to comment! The ghosts no longer seem accurate, I think we have all had the annoying experience of battling the ghost of a fellow league member only to find that rather than beat it by 0.005 seconds you were actually 21 seconds slower! I don't know how the bots work in a mutli rider environment. Do they adapt to the capabilities of the rider nearest to them or are they based on the ability of the person who set up the session.
All in all I think they are of little use and totally clutter up the leaderboard stopping you from either seeing people you are trying to catch or from watching the tussle at the front.
Could I suggest that we don't include any bots and only include ghosts on the Saturday re run with a 2/3 from those who did the Thursday session and with a spread of results.
If we find that the ghosts are getting more stable then we can think of reintroducing them.
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
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Me on the bike, near the top of the first mountain yesterday, cool y but still warm enough for shorts.
 
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Me on the bike, near the top of the first mountain yesterday, cool y but still warm enough for shorts.
That's just not right. First all this talk about bots and ghosts that I only see during the warm up then this picture of a beautiful fall day just as I'm dreading the 20 foot walk to the bike shed in the pouring rain that hasn't stopped for 3 days.
 

inesfra

Senior Member
https://www.recrace.it/

Already from next Saturday afternoon, at 3 PM for you, there would be a race. It is developed on the Bkool platform.
I know you gather on Bkool on Saturdays for the November CCG Challenge.
But, in any case, it might be useful to follow this site, at least as long as the races are free ...
 

Brusgaard

Über Guru
Location
Skive, Denmark
Stage preview @Brusgaard please.

A group (hopefully me too) will make it to the bottom of the first longer downhill section, after which the lightweights will pull away going up. It may be possible to catch them again at the next downhill section (but probably too short) only to see them fly away on the uphill again.
If not already too far behind already, the heavier riders (80kg+) might be able to catch up on the final 7.5 km downhill section (about 400 meters of descent), but it will require quite some spinning from already tired legs!
Then there is that 50% somewhere - hopefully just asglitch or 5m that you can roll over without being stopped, depending on how fast your trainer reacts and the level of force it can apply.

Winner(s): Andy, Keith or Berty.
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
A group (hopefully me too) will make it to the bottom of the first longer downhill section, after which the lightweights will pull away going up. It may be possible to catch them again at the next downhill section (but probably too short) only to see them fly away on the uphill again.
If not already too far behind already, the heavier riders (80kg+) might be able to catch up on the final 7.5 km downhill section (about 400 meters of descent), but it will require quite some spinning from already tired legs!
Then there is that 50% somewhere - hopefully just asglitch or 5m that you can roll over without being stopped, depending on how fast your trainer reacts and the level of force it can apply.

Winner(s): Andy, Keith or Berty.
I am warming to you sir 😁
 
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