Team BKool CycleChat

[LBHIFI]

FTP is best done in slope mode so can alter power and cadence depending on how you're feeling during the test.

20mins or 2*8mins with 10 mins rest between.

Is there a bkool slope mode? You think I could use it during a race?

 

[theboxers]

I think I've found a good part of my problem. Right by the motor there's this

 

[LBHIFI]

I think I've found a good part of my problem. Right by the motor there's this View attachment 397528

The thread is gone?

 

[Randyberlin]

The thread is gone?

I had the same thing. After I bought a new unit and had nothing to lose I cleaned up the worn threads And superglued a thin nut on the back end of the magnet carrier that used good threads. It seemed to work fine. BKOOL wouldn't sell just the shaft but would do the repair if I sent in the unit. The cost to ship it was way more than new unit.

 

[CXRAndy]

Is there a bkool slope mode? You think I could use it during a race?[/QUOTE

if it's a flat course just ride the socks of it for 30 mins

 

[CXRAndy]

I think I've found a good part of my problem. Right by the motor there's this View attachment 397528

Time for a new trainer. Direto has good reviews on performance, cheap for a decent spec. can't comment on quality

quality items Kickr, Neo and even top of the range Cyclops

 

[LBHIFI]

if it's a flat course just ride the socks of it for 30 mins

I'm constantly shifting gears in Bkool, not really optimal for a ftp test.

 

[theboxers]

The thread is gone?

Only on the begining of the thread. But due to the lack of thread the magnets can get pulled closer to the flywheel.

Time for a new trainer. Direto has good reviews on performance, cheap for a decent spec. can't comment on quality

quality items Kickr, Neo and even top of the range Cyclops

A major possibilty, like 98%. I'm leaning towards a kickr with a climb at a later date.

 

[theboxers]

Anyone know the best price for a kickr. I can get one from Wiggle for £880

 

[berty bassett]

Anyone know the best price for a kickr. I can get one from Wiggle for £880

Join bcc? Then Use discount in Halfords with maybe price match ? Only guessing as I haven’t looked

 

[gbrown]

Anyone know the best price for a kickr. I can get one from Wiggle for £880

Been spending lots on Wiggle to get your Platinum discount?

 

[Breedon]

Anyone know the best price for a kickr. I can get one from Wiggle for £880

Do it TB do it, you know you want to we can sense it
Looks like a lack of sleep is playing with my mind

 

[bobinski]

I don't know Bob - I can only go by my own experience and the comparison with the ride on the Neo as a benchmark (which is probably a bit out of date now as I've improved my fitness since then). My point was just that based on my experience - a 7%/20 watt difference between Neo and Pro rides on the same course at the time - and the fact that Jacob can definitely do in excess of 410 watts for over 13 minutes in real life, the suggestion from Andy that his watts would be 20% or more lower on a PM equipped trainer seemed a bit excessive/unlikely to me that's all.

Andy's Pro must be acting differently to mine as his average race watts on his kickr look to be roughly similar to what I did on the Neo and I still don't get anywhere near 80 watts higher on the Bkool (I did get around 75 watts more than the Neo ride once, but it was a 14 minute race - couldn't have sustained this for normal length race of around an hour. And I came last in that race!)

As I've mentioned before, occasionally my Pro doesn't apply enough resistance and I need to turn off and on again - if I rode a full race without doing this it would be really obvious in the results! When working normally I find it reasonably consistent in terms of w/kg to be honest. if there are people not picking up on their trainers malfunctioning and not applying resistance properly, maybe this is the inconsistency? In my case, it's easily noticed and so far, easily fixed.

I agree that the watts show higher on the flat as you say, and are more accurate on a long climb (still haven't beaten that Box Hill time I did on the NEo!). I'm not sure ALL of the extra watts relate directly to extra speed either, as some of them are just the Pro reporting watts as you back off the power for longer than they should (as it interprets the wheel moving as watts whether you're pedaling or not). But if you stop pedaling on a Kickr or Neo, whilst your watts would drop off immediately, you don't come to an immediate stop, you maintain a bit of speed/momentum in the game as well (just with fewer or no watts being recorded).

No but you do slow more quickly than I experienced on my Pro.
I also reckon you really liked that NEO and perhaps tried a little harder or your riding style and power meant you got more out of it? Who knows.
Much as it pains me to admit it you are a much stronger rider than me and perhaps the stronger the rider the less difference between pro and PM etc.

 

[theboxers]

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Been spending lots on Wiggle to get your Platinum discount?

New Garmin 1030 just because I needed a larger screen, eyes are going bad faster than the legs.

 

[theboxers]

Do it TB do it, you know you want to we can sense it

Looks like a lack of sleep is playing with my mind

Funny I'm sleeping realy well due to the amount of exercise I'm doing .