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wheely

Regular
Hey guys,

So my new Pro trainer turns up today... i noticed the box seal is open but didn't think anything of it.

I have now unpacked it and found a light rattle inside, i shuck it and a small piece of plastic falls out. I then looked round the unit and see that the side of it is not in correctly in and also there are marks on the unit... i decided to put it on just to try and a buzzing is coming from it and its so so loud?

Anyone else had issues with the trainer like this? its almost like i have ordered a brand new one and given a second hand one? ive sent a email in see what happens.

I have done exactly the same thing today....side not fitted properly, couple of tiny shards of black plastic fell out and a couple of scuff marks on the back end of the resistance unit. No buzz coming from it though so I hope it's ok. Let me know how you get on because it's quite expensive for a second hand model!
 

camerauk

Active Member
Location
Devon
I did have a few marks on mine, I think its the way they are packaged up no noises coming from mine though thankfully
 

BILL S

Guru
Location
London
Hey guys,

So my new Pro trainer turns up today... i noticed the box seal is open but didn't think anything of it.

I have now unpacked it and found a light rattle inside, i shuck it and a small piece of plastic falls out. I then looked round the unit and see that the side of it is not in correctly in and also there are marks on the unit... i decided to put it on just to try and a buzzing is coming from it and its so so loud?

Anyone else had issues with the trainer like this? its almost like i have ordered a brand new one and given a second hand one? ive sent a email in see what happens.

Hi Soterios. When my pro arrived it was just like yours including the rattle and the bits of plastic and a bit of metal falling out. Even not quite fitting together perfectly. It had the buzz coming from it when it runs but that's the fan hitting the cover. bkool eventually sent me a new cover via wiggle who I bought it from. In the mean time I ran it with the cover cable tied to the outside of the unit. It did not have marks on the outside of the unit though. It just seemed badly made rather than second hand. Anyway I kept it though its initial problems and its fine now. I've had it for 2-3 months now. Yours could be fine too but depends if the marks on the outside are a big deal.
 

kipster

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Did Salcombe and The Tumble tonight. Salcombe was a test to see if I could maintain some kind of hard effort for a period of time, very pleased to do it dead on 5 minutes, it took me longer than that to recover before having a go at the Tumble (climb 97 of 100). I'm due to do Velothon Wales and the Tumble features. Given that they are probably harder in real life I think I should just about be ok on the 25 tooth rear gear!

I don't think I'll match my Salcombe time on Thursday.
 

soterios

Regular
Cheers guys, i will try that trick Bill.. it seems to just buzz when it hits a bigger speed around 16mph

the fan part does seem quite loose... disappointing though i must admit but i suppose with the price point the plastics won't be the best
 

Richylad

Active Member
Location
Staffordshire
Hey guys,

So my new Pro trainer turns up today... i noticed the box seal is open but didn't think anything of it.

I have now unpacked it and found a light rattle inside, i shuck it and a small piece of plastic falls out. I then looked round the unit and see that the side of it is not in correctly in and also there are marks on the unit... i decided to put it on just to try and a buzzing is coming from it and its so so loud?

Anyone else had issues with the trainer like this? its almost like i have ordered a brand new one and given a second hand one? ive sent a email in see what happens.

I had to send my first bkool pro back to wiggle due to a broken piece on the QR handle thingy bob, the box was sealed but the unit was a bit scuffed, bubble wrap not thick enough I think, just send it back
 

Richylad

Active Member
Location
Staffordshire
Hi Soterios. When my pro arrived it was just like yours including the rattle and the bits of plastic and a bit of metal falling out. Even not quite fitting together perfectly. It had the buzz coming from it when it runs but that's the fan hitting the cover. bkool eventually sent me a new cover via wiggle who I bought it from. In the mean time I ran it with the cover cable tied to the outside of the unit. It did not have marks on the outside of the unit though. It just seemed badly made rather than second hand. Anyway I kept it though its initial problems and its fine now. I've had it for 2-3 months now. Yours could be fine too but depends if the marks on the outside are a big deal.
And Bill's gets a LOT of use/abuse lol ....so it's a good recommendation.
 

kipster

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Hi Soterios. When my pro arrived it was just like yours including the rattle and the bits of plastic and a bit of metal falling out. Even not quite fitting together perfectly. It had the buzz coming from it when it runs but that's the fan hitting the cover. bkool eventually sent me a new cover via wiggle who I bought it from. In the mean time I ran it with the cover cable tied to the outside of the unit. It did not have marks on the outside of the unit though. It just seemed badly made rather than second hand. Anyway I kept it though its initial problems and its fine now. I've had it for 2-3 months now. Yours could be fine too but depends if the marks on the outside are a big deal.

Mine arrived with the box a little bashed, but all was well. I removed the fan cover just incase mine had the noise, but as I used it in the garage only the mice are at risk of injury. No scuffs or marks although some of the plastic bits are a little bit out of alignment.
 

BILL S

Guru
Location
London
And Bill's gets a LOT of use/abuse lol ....so it's a good recommendation.

Its only done 860 miles according to Strava. Feels like a lot more though.
 

kipster

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Evening all. Had my first ride on the trainer this evening and was so excited I didn't check my tyre pressure, felt like I was trying to push through mud. Tyre inflated did the FTP test to get my base line ..... Amateur 1 it is then. Only way is up but I supose that is why I got the trainer in the first place!

I intend to try and do some interval training to get fitter and thought it might help to have short periods of climb when I'm doing the 'on' part of the interval. Question: is there a way of setting up a climb, say 2* every thirty seconds or so OR should I do the this type of training in the velodrome and use my gears to up the anti?

Also, it seems that the bkool zones think my heart can get up to 188 bpm but I'm pretty sure my max is 176. Is there anywhere I can manually input my max so it can work out my zones better?

I don't understand all this power, saw tooth residence stuff yet so I'll leave all those questions for another day

@wheely for the intervals you can create a route manually from sessions / create a route then select the manual tab. There may be some already setup so it might be worth a search.
 
Evening all. Had my first ride on the trainer this evening and was so excited I didn't check my tyre pressure, felt like I was trying to push through mud. Tyre inflated did the FTP test to get my base line ..... Amateur 1 it is then. Only way is up but I supose that is why I got the trainer in the first place!

I intend to try and do some interval training to get fitter and thought it might help to have short periods of climb when I'm doing the 'on' part of the interval. Question: is there a way of setting up a climb, say 2* every thirty seconds or so OR should I do the this type of training in the velodrome and use my gears to up the anti?

Also, it seems that the bkool zones think my heart can get up to 188 bpm but I'm pretty sure my max is 176. Is there anywhere I can manually input my max so it can work out my zones better?

I don't understand all this power, saw tooth residence stuff yet so I'll leave all those questions for another day

If it feels you are going through treacle, your turbo hub might need recalibrating. It's probably come without the new firmware update. It's worth doing, it helped mine no end. I was getting silly high cadence readings, and very low speed and power compared with was I would manage on the road ( well, the speeds at least). Now it seems much better, and more in line with others here, although there is a suspicion that power and speed readings are generous. After installing the firmware, my level went from amateur 3 to 9- worth doing! :smile:
I updated by uninistalling the bsim software from the laptop I use to run the sessions, then re-installing whilst within close range ( approx 1 meter) of the turbo hub, with the turbo hub switched on, and the Ant+ dongle plugged into the laptop. It then asked if I wanted the firmware update and that was that.

hope this helps!
 

wheely

Regular
If it feels you are going through treacle, your turbo hub might need recalibrating. It's probably come without the new firmware update. It's worth doing, it helped mine no end. I was getting silly high cadence readings, and very low speed and power compared with was I would manage on the road ( well, the speeds at least). Now it seems much better, and more in line with others here, although there is a suspicion that power and speed readings are generous. After installing the firmware, my level went from amateur 3 to 9- worth doing! :smile:
I updated by uninistalling the bsim software from the laptop I use to run the sessions, then re-installing whilst within close range ( approx 1 meter) of the turbo hub, with the turbo hub switched on, and the Ant+ dongle plugged into the laptop. It then asked if I wanted the firmware update and that was that.

hope this helps!
Thanks I'll give it a shot tomorrow - not sure I'lol get that much of an improvement though
 

BILL S

Guru
Location
London
I don't think they're giving that firmware update at the moment. I uninstalled and reinstalled a couple of days ago and they didn't offer a firmware update. Even when they were, I could never get mine to install.
 

lintax

New Member
When a course is setup it has an associated distance (e.g. so many laps, a GPS trace of a certain length), and sometimes an associated time (e.g. 20 minutes of laps or a GPS trace that took 30 minutes that particular time).

Usually you would want to ride by distance, so your 10 mile ride is 10 miles, and if you ride it quick or slow it takes the relevant amount of time. This is how most "courses" would likely be done.

If a video is associated with a route done by distance, the video will speed up and slow down to match the speed you are cycling, and will get to the end the same time you do.

However, sometimes you would rather cycle for a specified time, no matter how much or little distance is covered, for example if you are doing interval training or some other pre-defined exercise such as pedal flat out for 5 minutes, then rest for 20 minutes, then repeat. For example, you can create manual sessions by time, with a specified amount of time at a specified gradient, very useful for interval training.

So if you want to ride "intervals" like this, you can choose to ride by time, and it is a case of how much distance can you cover in the prescribed time (e.g. how many laps of the velodrome in 20 minutes).

If a video is associated with a route done by time, it will not speed up or slow down to match you, it will just play for the specified time, and you may cover more or less than the mileage originally associated with the session. Therefore the video will not be synched to your riding, or represent where you are on the course (you may be far past the end of the video).

Generally schedule "Routes" by distance (especially with video), and "Intervals" or interval training by time.

One word of warning, if you do a session by time, you cannot export it to a .fit file for importing into Strava, etc. It gives a message that "interval sessions" cannot currently be exported.

Cheers,

Geoff

Thanks! Very detailed explanation!
 
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