Rebranding of Cycling Uk

[Oldhippy]

As @Ian H says events like the York Rally are massively important and should be kept up with active participants across the cycling world. Everyone from around the world cyclists to the person doing the weekly shopping and anyone in between can benefit from promoting cycling in a way that doesn't 'complicate' it unnecessarily.

 

[Ian H]

In what way did this make you happy / sad / poorer / richer / indignant / faster / slower ?

You missed out amused.

 

[Oldhippy]

Imagine Cycling UK somehow managing to get in 'business' bed with one or more monied cycle related companies and running TV adverts like car adverts but realistically showing the myriad of benefits to be had from more bikes less cars whilst showing anyone can do it not just the lycra clad racers but the mum going to pick up the children from school whilst dressed in regular clothes.

 

[matticus]

Perhaps those at the head of the organization could set an example to other cyclist.
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Riding on the right hand side of the road.

Seriously??

 

[matticus]

As @Ian H says events like the York Rally are massively important and should be kept up with active participants across the cycling world. Everyone from around the world cyclists to the person doing the weekly shopping and anyone in between can benefit from promoting cycling in a way that doesn't 'complicate' it unnecessarily.

The York Rally is resurgant. I was there. June this year!

Perhaps in 10 years they will be holding an annual toast there:
"To IanH! For keeping the grudge going! Hoorah!"

 

[Ian H]

The York Rally is resurgant. I was there. June this year!

Perhaps in 10 years they will be holding an annual toast there:
"To IanH! For keeping the grudge going! Hoorah!"

The point is that the current independent York Rally organisation is succeeding where CTC failed.

 

[matticus]

The point is that the current independent York Rally organisation is succeeding where CTC failed.

And well done them!

Just so I know - approximately how long do you plan to continue moaning about this? (and when did this disaster first occur? I would hate to miss any anniversaries! )

 

[Psamathe]

I joined because they did insurance.

Exactly. Its the cheapest 3rd party liability/personal insurance I could find

As a regular cyclist, I would recommend you are a member of one or the other or source your own third party insurance that you can rely upon.

Many with house insurance will actually have 3rd party liability when cycling included. I can't talk for every policy but if you have house insurance it's worth checking. My own policies have included a decent cover for years and most times this comes up some go check and "gosh, they have it anyway. Of course some wont have hous einsurance and maybe some policies are different or have constrainty but worth checking.

Ian

 

[rogerzilla]

Perhaps those at the head of the organization could set an example to other cyclist.
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Riding on the right hand side of the road.

One way street, I assume.

 

[Ian H]

Many with house insurance will actually have 3rd party liability when cycling included. I can't talk for every policy but if you have house insurance it's worth checking. My own policies have included a decent cover for years and most times this comes up some go check and "gosh, they have it anyway. Of course some wont have hous einsurance and maybe some policies are different or have constrainty but worth checking.

Ian

Will your house insurance offer free legal advice as well? It served me well in helping me extract compensation from a minicab driver sometime in the 1980s.

 

[Psamathe]

Will your house insurance offer free legal advice as well? It served me well in helping me extract compensation from a minicab driver sometime in the 1980s.

It used to but I'm unsure now. They certainly offer it but for a small hike in premium and I may (or may not) have excluded that option over the ludicrous unjustified premium increases.

The option is a policy wide one, not specifically in relation to 3rd party or cycling cover.

Ian

 

[Dogtrousers]

Any rebranding needs to start with thinking through what Cycling UK is for, a mission statement if you like. It’s no longer a members club but does have local clubs that organise rides, it’s also a campaigning charity. I’m not sure these are very compatible which confuses the brand.

Very much this. Like many people I join to get the insurance, and it enables me to participate in Friday Night Rides. As a by-product I get the magazine that is generally rather dull, but I do skim through it just in case. It's not quite 100% guaranteed boring.

I'm also aware that they do campaigning and stuff so if I want to know the effect of such-and-such a law change, or if the government is seeking input for a proposal, then I probably come to see if Cycling UK have something to say on the subject. Sometimes they do.

But I don't have a clue what they do beyond this.

 

[matticus]

Very much this. Like many people I join to get the insurance, and it enables me to participate in Friday Night Rides. As a by-product I get the magazine that is generally rather dull, but I do skim through it just in case. It's not quite 100% guaranteed boring.

I'm also aware that they do campaigning and stuff so if I want to know the effect of such-and-such a law change, or if the government is seeking input for a proposal, then I probably come to see if Cycling UK have something to say on the subject. Sometimes they do.

But I don't have a clue what they do beyond this.

WTF do you want them to do? The magazine - which you and the other moaning old gits on here describe as "still boring" - is full of the stuff they do, mainly campaigning, law changes, funding people to get cycling, helping disabled riders, kids, boring sh1te like that. So apparently you're not interested in THAT stuff.

Should they come round and pump your tyres up for you? Or just wipe your arse? How well are other organisations wiping your arse - and do you feel they charge a fair fee?

 

[Dogtrousers]

WTF do you want them to do? The magazine - which you and the other moaning old gits on here describe as "still boring" - is full of the stuff they do, mainly campaigning, law changes, funding people to get cycling, helping disabled riders, kids, boring sh1te like that. So apparently you're not interested in THAT stuff.

Should they come round and pump your tyres up for you? Or just wipe your arse? How well are other organisations wiping your arse - and do you feel they charge a fair fee?

I just want them to provide me with insurance and a boring magazine, that's all. I'm perfectly happy with the arrangement.

 

[wiggydiggy]

I recently renewed my membership, but will probably let it lapse next time.
Reduced price for seniors is no longer offered - it's £52 pa for all adults - and 5 years for the cost of 4 has also been discontinued.
No longer worth it for me!

Thats cheeky! I just checked and they still offer a concessionary price for "receiving benefits, under 16s, students and carers" but they've dropped the pensioners price.

As a regular cyclist, I would recommend you are a member of one or the other or source your own third party insurance that you can rely upon.

I say this as someone who was sued by another cyclist - I got knocked off my bike, but also took down another cyclist in my fall. The driver legged it. Six months later, other cyclist sues me. BC got involved and settled. Could have been massively expensive and I'm not so sure household insurance would offer the cover level and piece of mind.

You have been warned.

Many with house insurance will actually have 3rd party liability when cycling included. I can't talk for every policy but if you have house insurance it's worth checking. My own policies have included a decent cover for years and most times this comes up some go check and "gosh, they have it anyway. Of course some wont have hous einsurance and maybe some policies are different or have constrainty but worth checking.

Ian

@fossyant 's example is exactly why I wanted something above and beyond my household insurance. I do have some legal/personal protection within the household insurance but I don't have the specialized advice and care that (I hope) having dedicated cycling insurance does. Just from a quick check of the policy the legal protection seems more geared at protecting me against legal expenses incurred in/around my home rather than cycling.