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Spinney

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Four pages and no bites... you poor thing... OK, I'll give you the attention you crave... cyclist/bus/pringle incident, cyclist brought it on himself (I apologise for stating the cyclists gender)... this incident, the cyclist didn't... can you tell the difference?


You know there is really no need to take the p*** about some people's very real concerns about gender equality and the effects that the use of language may have on this. If the cyclist involved was male (and I assume you can see this from the video), there is nothing wrong with saying 'himself'.
 
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asterix

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According to Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary, as reported (sorry!) by Sky news.


That was dated March 2010 when
Nottinghamshire's Chief Constable Julia Hodson promised the force would "dramatically boost" its performance.
"Urgent action is now being taken, as a result of the Capability Review and with the support of the Police Authority and HMIC, to build on our improvement plan of last year, to create a more stable and cohesive leadership team working alongside me, and to ensure we deliver significant and lasting performance improvements on the ground for the people of this county," she said.

Three years later..
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
Is it you that is a truck driver MontyVeda? I hope I've got that wrong.
what has my occupation got to do with anything?
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
2589528 said:
Are you really comfortable with the use of a road vehicle as a weapon of intimidation or, as in these two examples, actual violence toward another person?
why would you assume I'm 'comfortable' with either intimidation or violence... all i did was point out the very clear differences between this incident, and 'that' incident.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
The 'Well, you were asking for it' attitude.
oh that one... he was hardly just cycling along, minding his own business was he?

just because i noticed that he was clearly winding up the bus driver doesn't give me any particular attitude, it's just me being observant... read in to that what you will.
 

steve6690

Regular
In what way was he not riding defensively (enough).

I see no evidence of a lack of defensive riding and the tone of the email is therefore patronising in the extreme.

Drivers, including the one in the Pug have a duty to be aware of what's going on around them too, a duty to accept that riding the horn does not confer right of way nor is the horn a substitute for the brakes, and they should have to accept, via the courts, that ramming right turning cyclists deliberately, i.e. using a car as a weapon, should result in having their licence taken away for a very long time. And I write that as a driver as well as a cyclist.

Please read my posts again. You are preaching to the converted. In this case he did nothing wrong. I'm making a general point.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
I see it as my own responsibility not to wind other people up... if I do wind somebody up, and the result is them getting wound up... are they really to blame? Or did my own actions merely have a consequence?

I'm not claiming that what the bus driver did was the right thing to do... I'm trying to point out that the cyclist (in the other thread) did in fact bring it upon himself... He could have averted the incident by not being a d!ck in the first place. Surely you understand the logic?
 
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