Motorsports Thread

[figbat]

I hope Masi never officiates in F1 again. He has ruined this season. I have no issue with who is champion, but I do have issue with the way in which it played out. Rabbit in the headlights making decisions for reasons beyond sporting fairness. If he wanted them to race then don’t let the lapped drivers through and get on with it.

 

[Illaveago]

RedBull have won the appeal.
It will be interesting to hear why.

Masi probably has shares in Red Bull .

 

[Beebo]

I suspect the FIA couldn’t change their decision but this will probably end up in the courts.

The decision to let some but not all lapped cars through seems odder the more you look at it.

 

[Illaveago]

Breaking news . Track limits will be extended into the crowds! It's a new decree announced by the new world champion and seconded by DC .

 

[classic33]

If you consider the race as a whole Lewis did a very good job . He stormed past Verstappen off the start. He managed to avoid Max when they went into the corner and maintained his lead . This can be argued over but in taking avoiding action he would have lost pace so he took the easy route . This according to DC should be allowed under the no rules policy . Having kept the lead Lewis extended it and Max dropped back . Max pitted and then Lewis did the same . Perez held up Lewis so that Max could close in to 1 second but once Lewis got past he was away again . A safety car allowed Max to change tyres and set off after Lewis once again but after an initial speed advantage couldn't close the gap . This was maintained until another yellow flag the race director decided to change the rules and allowed Max to close up to Lewis on fresher tyres.
The race director said he wanted them to race ! They had been for the past 55 laps !

Lewis was on tyres which were somewhere near 40 laps old ! Max had pitted for fresh soft tyres . Lewis had a 12 second gap plus 5 other cars between him and Max when the yellow flag came out . The race officials announced one thing which would have meant that cars unlapping themselves would have taken long enough for the positions to remain the same till the end of the race . This was then changed to allow the 5 cars between them to clear off allowing Max to close right up handing the advantage to Max .

The blue flags would have been waving anyway.

Scrap the blue flag and let them have to overtake those in front, often having their own battle on track.

 

[Illaveago]

The blue flags would have been waving anyway.

Scrap the blue flag and let them have to overtake those in front, often having their own battle on track.

Yes , but each car would have been a hindrance and allowed a bit of space to get away . The way it was done was totally unfair with Lewis on old tyres whilst Max had fresh ones .
Where was the penalty for Max weaving ? His team spotted it !

 

[Illaveago]

I will never buy Red Bull or Edam cheese !

 

[Tom B]

The radio comms into massi have been a real eye opener.

It just simply shouldn't happen beyond teams being able to send a message saying something along the lines of "please review incident lap 5 turn 7" and even then for transparency that should be public and anon.

It's just a huge distraction at key decision times for him. He does know you don't have to answer a ringing phone doesn't he?

 

[Jody]

What did you think about the first lap "incident"?

Sending it from way to far back and leaving your car at 90 degrees on and your competitor no where to go other than off the track or into your side?

Perfectly legal move. After all he stayed inside the lines.

I see it all the time racing online.

 

[classic33]

Yes , but each car would have been a hindrance and allowed a bit of space to get away . The way it was done was totally unfair with Lewis on old tyres whilst Max had fresh ones .
Where was the penalty for Max weaving ? His team spotted it !

Hamilton and/or his team didn't want to risk a pit stop. Nothing to do with what another driver/team did.

As to why, only Hamilton and AMG Mercedes can answer.

 

[Beebo]

Mercedes have advised they are appealing the decision.
We need to hear from FIA.

 

[Jody]

To be fair, I wanted Ham to win, but I equally don't want it taken away from Max.

RB rolled the dice a few times today and it paid off for them.

 

[keithmac]

Only Lewis and his team to blame why he was on 40 lap old tyres.

Well done Max and well done Red Bull for pitting him when they did.

As soon as a decision goes Red Bulls way all hell breaks loose it seams, Sky were also completely biased towards one team.

 

[Illaveago]

I think Lewis Hamilton is in actual fact a 9 times world champion . He was denied his first on some technicality . I can remember Bernie Ecclestone saying at the time that he didn't have to win the championship in his first year. At the time it seemed that he was pulling strings . Today he was denied his 9th by the stupid way in which the last laps were run . He had lead the race until that last decision was made handing the lead to Max . Totally unfair .

 

[classic33]

I think Lewis Hamilton is in actual fact a 9 times world champion . He was denied his first on some technicality*. I can remember Bernie Ecclestone saying at the time that he didn't have to win the championship in his first year. At the time it seemed that he was pulling strings . Today he was denied his 9th by the stupid way in which the last laps were run . He had lead the race until that last decision was made handing the lead to Max . Totally unfair .

Lost one due to being over confident about his abilities. Ending up in the gravel trap after his tyres gave up.

"Ferrarigate", where the team were disqualified as well.