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So fed up with all the shoot spoken by coutard and all the other presenters on channel 4.why can't they just show qualifying?
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Drago
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Ricciardo out qualified Tshonda again. Looks like he might have found some mojo, or maybe the upgrades suit him, or whatever.
If he keeps this going it raises some interesting scenarios. Helmet (sic) had been making noises about dropping Ricciardo and promotion Lawson in 2025, but if the Australian manages to continue to outperform Tsunoda then that would be perverse.
And then if Verstappen did defect RB would potentially have to decide which of the three to promote to the senior team, and then whether to keep Tsunoda or replace him with some new talent, or even whether to bounce Perez down to VCARB.
If he keeps this going it raises some interesting scenarios. Helmet (sic) had been making noises about dropping Ricciardo and promotion Lawson in 2025, but if the Australian manages to continue to outperform Tsunoda then that would be perverse.
And then if Verstappen did defect RB would potentially have to decide which of the three to promote to the senior team, and then whether to keep Tsunoda or replace him with some new talent, or even whether to bounce Perez down to VCARB.
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Ask that nice Mr Murdoch who arranged a rights deal from 2012 to 2029...
In other news,
I thought that was going to be quite dull until Max decided to take himself out of the race rather than let Lando past. After the excitement of last weeks race, this one looked quite dull after the off (and to be fair I think between the first 20 minutes and the last 20 minutes was in fact quite dull) .
Real boils my fluid though hearing RB Radio. Max having a whinge and being told be Horner that it wasn't his fault even though he had penalties. They should have told him like a grown up - you cocked up, they gave you a 10 second penalty for being a bluetit.
I thought that was going to be quite dull until Max decided to take himself out of the race rather than let Lando past. After the excitement of last weeks race, this one looked quite dull after the off (and to be fair I think between the first 20 minutes and the last 20 minutes was in fact quite dull) .
Real boils my fluid though hearing RB Radio. Max having a whinge and being told be Horner that it wasn't his fault even though he had penalties. They should have told him like a grown up - you cocked up, they gave you a 10 second penalty for being a bluetit.
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I thought Horner was pretty evasive when questioned about the incident and Max’s driving behaviour. He knows Max was out of order.
Lando looked near tears.
Drago
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It looked a bit marginal to me, but having watched it now from several angles Max did jink left. Only slight, but that was enough.
I'm not sure how Norris thought he'd get round the outside and get better drive out on the les optimum line, but he's entitled to try. Not the worst thing I've ever seen, but Max deserved having his bum spanked.
And Zak putting our statement questioning the level of punishment. Why? McLaren are so close every last iota of effort should be devoted to getting past RB. This is a waste of senior personnel's time and contributes nothing to that goal, so why do it? The closer McLaren get to the top to more ZB is becoming a pound shop Tonto Wolf, and look where that got Merdedes in the end?
I'm not sure how Norris thought he'd get round the outside and get better drive out on the les optimum line, but he's entitled to try. Not the worst thing I've ever seen, but Max deserved having his bum spanked.
And Zak putting our statement questioning the level of punishment. Why? McLaren are so close every last iota of effort should be devoted to getting past RB. This is a waste of senior personnel's time and contributes nothing to that goal, so why do it? The closer McLaren get to the top to more ZB is becoming a pound shop Tonto Wolf, and look where that got Merdedes in the end?
Drago
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That's psychology though. Why give him a further distraction when he's out on the track? Deliberately foxtrotting him off isn't going to help him recover.
That was after the race when he was on his drive back to the pits.
Yeah, that's where the "punishment doesn't really fit the crime" bit comes in. Max gets a 10 second penalty for causing the collision. Lando gets to lose the entire chance to race and any chance of getting a single point. There should really be some sort of rule that prevents drivers from scoring points if they take out their opponent and it's ruled to be their fault.
Nice for Russell to get the top step though.
Nice for Russell to get the top step though.
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Similar incident at Le Mans previous weekend when Kubica took out the #15 BMW when lapping it. Vanthoor was minding his own business and Robert just wiped him out, ending that car's race.
The #81 Ferrari was given a 5 second time penalty. That was it. Though in the end justice was done, as their hybrid went *fzzzzt* during the night.
Really, if a penalty has to be applied for a transgression, it needs to be MEANINGFUL. That's the main gripe I have. Max got a 10s time penalty, which had no effect on him whatsoever, as the next car behind him was about 16 seconds back. Which meant he kept his place and his points. And then F1 wonders why it's a bleeding laughing stock...
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The motorsport equivalent of a 'professional foul'
figbat
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The penalty didn’t even change Max’s position so was totally impactless.
Drago
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And that's the thing, the Marshals have to look at the infraction itself and cannot take into consideration the consequences, thus punishments often seem negatively out of proportion and have little actual effect.
I think he got 2 points on his previously clean licence though.
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And me. The whole thing, the gushing accolades, the seemingly overdone commentary just gets right on me, it's just so overenthusiastic it hurts. And I like Coulthard but it doesn't help me like the style of it all.
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Watching on "mute" is quite refreshing 