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Well...
That was a bit dull TBH. The Aston was faster than the Merc and the RB faster than both with no prospect of any actual racing, just many laps of tyre management.

And fuel and brakes!

BTCC on the other hand was cracking, not particularly a Turkington fan but you have to hand it to him, 27th to 9th first race, 9th to 4th in second race, then 4th to the win in the 3rd.

Still trying to work out exactly what happened to Sutton, he was pushed to the wall but it was only a scrape, so what actually broke all the suspension which then caused the driveshaft to make it's escape, do they run carbon fibre suspension parts? But I have been thinking for a while it would only need a DNF for it all to close up again, which goes against the he's running away with it talk.
 

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Only one of each was faster. :okay:

True - some good takeaways though.

Max was only 10 secs in front of Alonso who in turn was only 5 secs in front of Hamilton - so things are seeming to close up a little.
 
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Max was only 10 secs in front of Alonso who in turn was only 5 secs in front of Hamilton - so things are seeming to close up a little.
I saw it as Hamilton was flat out on the limit, Alonso was in fuel/brake save mode yet still able to maintain/extend the gap whenever it was required, Verstappen controlled the race & only went as fast as he needed to
 
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I saw it as Hamilton was flat out on the limit, Alonso was in fuel/brake save mode yet still able to maintain/extend the gap whenever it was required, Verstappen controlled the race & only went as fast as he needed to

Sums it up nicely.
 
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And fuel and brakes!

BTCC on the other hand was cracking, not particularly a Turkington fan but you have to hand it to him, 27th to 9th first race, 9th to 4th in second race, then 4th to the win in the 3rd.

Still trying to work out exactly what happened to Sutton, he was pushed to the wall but it was only a scrape, so what actually broke all the suspension which then caused the driveshaft to make it's escape, do they run carbon fibre suspension parts? But I have been thinking for a while it would only need a DNF for it all to close up again, which goes against the he's running away with it talk.

I think Ash created his own downfall in race 3 tbh - went for a gap that really wasn't there. The brush with the wall wasn't enough to break everything, but whatever broke caused a wobble. What finally broke the front end was him dipping that wheel over the kerb at Old Hall.

When you look at the footage, you can see how rutted it got there after a day's racing - drivers changed their line through the corner in order to avoid getting done for track limits on the exit.

Ting had a "pointsy day" and Dan Cam was just strangely off the pace.
 

FishFright

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So much for Perez and his title challenge.

It was never on.
 
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He's had plenty of opportunities handed him on a plate and cacked them up. Like today's sprint, same car and same tyres and he wasn't even the same race.
Maybe you watched a different race, but once Max had deliberately forced him off the track with his deliberate late braking T-bone manoeuvre there was no point in going after the petulant child, 2nd place was good enough.
 
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Only in Perez's mind.



He's had plenty of opportunities handed him on a plate and cacked them up. Like today's sprint, same car and same tyres and he wasn't even the same race.

Once he'd lost the early fight all he was interested in was finishing the race, which is probably what he was told to do.
 

Drago

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Maybe you watched a different race, but once Max had deliberately forced him off the track with his deliberate late braking T-bone manoeuvre there was no point in going after the petulant child, 2nd place was good enough.

I watched the race where neither driver was penalised by the Marshals, despite Perez not having the line. I'm also reading a sporting media pretty much unifersally tut-tutting at Perez for being too ambitious turning in on a car that was clearly better controlled and braking deeper than he could manage himself. Sergio has himself already said he was caught witn Max unsighted both times, and Red Bull Spice has echoed this.

But whatever, once the first corner elbows-out bit was out the way he wasn't on the same plane of existence. Max hunted him down with shark like tenacity and quickly dispatched him, cleanly or not. If Perez were so sheet hot when why does he let Max keep doing this?

He's running out of excuses, as are his fans. RB is quite driver-centric in that they're responsible for their own set up, strategy and tyre choice (Red Bull Spice has the final say but rarely countermands a plan pre-race once presented to him) so despite the wheedling of his three fans Perez has the same machinery, the same opportunity, and RB tend to take it in turns applying updates so neither driver is disadvantaged, at least until the title becomes a fair accompli. At RB he has more autonomy in his set up and strategy than he would at any other team on the grid, and still people moan about him being treated unfairly.

The answer is simple. He needs to drive faster. He needs to qualify on pole more often so he is the one that gets to brake deep (although he's not as good deep on the brakes as Max anyway), he needs to stop making silly mistakes and getting getting penalties, he needs to stop letting Max overtake him, then he might be a contender.
 
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