Invented phrases

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TVC

Guest
One less than brilliant Technical Director I had said "He should get off the pot or stop p*ssing".

It was difficult to follow what he was trying to say after that.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
the ones I hate are misused phrases: "begging the question" - which actually means "assuming what you are trying to prove" NOT "that is the key question" or variant thereof. A perfectly good phrase no longer usable as half (at least) of your audience will misunderstand your point.
Then "reaching a crescendo" - nooo ! The crescendo is a steady increase in volume, not the loudest bit.

strategic & tactical - these are about scale or size - not good versus bad as used in businessqq

"quantum leap" - that would be the smallest possible finite change then

I quite like some of the clichés which convey meaning concicesly, precisely or just with colour. eg "singing frome same hymn-sheet", "we are where we are" to close down a profitless.blame debate, aforementioned "glass ceiling" conveys a clear point, I have a soft spot for the Blackaderism "not at home to Mr Cock-Up". I do try and avoid management speak, but the occasional one creeps in, though I did once give a presentation to a bunch of managers naughtilly doing "bullshit bingo" complete with cards to fill in. I rather huffilly said they'd not get any off me - and indeed, got a clear round which I'm rather proud of
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
When I was at the Southport airshow on Sunday, I saw Sefton Council have wheelie bins with labels for "Co-mixed Waste". WTF is co-mixed?
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
The point is, is that...


(Listen carefully - it's all over the place!)
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
Someone half-remembered "commingled".

That's it. :okay: but it was "Co-mingled" not "Commingled"
Felt wrong as I typed it. I blame a senior moment and beer coming together, not co-mingling.:smile:

Still don't get "Co-mingled", If it's mixed recycling, or even mixed non recyclable, then say so.
I see the Council uses the same term in Council meetings:
the recommendations made by the Overview and Scrutiny Committee (Regeneration and Environmental Services) Working Group that a 'co-mingled collection' be developed be approved
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
That's it. :okay: but it was "Co-mingled" not "Commingled"
Felt wrong as I typed it. I blame a senior moment and beer coming together, not co-mingling.:smile:

Still don't get "Co-mingled", If it's mixed recycling, or even mixed non recyclable, then say so.
I see the Council uses the same term in Council meetings:
the recommendations made by the Overview and Scrutiny Committee (Regeneration and Environmental Services) Working Group that a 'co-mingled collection' be developed be approved

what's the difference between co-mingling and mere common-or-garden mingling? We need to know
 

swansonj

Guru
the ones I hate are misused phrases: "begging the question" - which actually means "assuming what you are trying to prove" NOT "that is the key question" or variant thereof. A perfectly good phrase no longer usable as half (at least) of your audience will misunderstand your point.
Then "reaching a crescendo" - nooo ! The crescendo is a steady increase in volume, not the loudest bit.

strategic & tactical - these are about scale or size - not good versus bad as used in businessqq

"quantum leap" - that would be the smallest possible finite change then

I quite like some of the clichés which convey meaning concicesly, precisely or just with colour. eg "singing frome same hymn-sheet", "we are where we are" to close down a profitless.blame debate, aforementioned "glass ceiling" conveys a clear point, I have a soft spot for the Blackaderism "not at home to Mr Cock-Up". I do try and avoid management speak, but the occasional one creeps in, though I did once give a presentation to a bunch of managers naughtilly doing "bullshit bingo" complete with cards to fill in. I rather huffilly said they'd not get any off me - and indeed, got a clear round which I'm rather proud of
Mild disagreement over "quantum leap" - in principle, the quantised v continuous distinction could apply at any scale, it's just that in practice, we only observe them at the very small scales. But a quantum leap in physics would be any transition in a single step, rather than continuously, from one state to another.

When a phrase is misused often enough, its new meaning becomes its actual meaning. Thus, it would now be pretty futile to insist on the original meanings of "breaking the mould" and "square peg in a round hole". Don't you think "begging the question" has almost completed the transition to the new meaning? And, of course, "literally" is well on the way.

It's all part of the rich joy of language and should be celebrated not bemoaned.
 
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