Invented phrases

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Drago

Legendary Member
"Enabling behaviours..." for, I don't know what

"Desire lines" for short cuts.

Years of made up work bullpois is slowly starting to bubble to the murky surface of my memory.

Paradigm shifts, reinterpret options...

"Candidate information pack" instead of a good old fashioned application form.
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srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
what's the difference between co-mingling and mere common-or-garden mingling? We need to know
Commingling emphasises the result - the fact that after mingling the things being mingled are mixed together. Mingling emphasises the process of mixing.

And co-mingling is simply wrong.
 

marzjennings

Legendary Member
To be fair, agile, scrum and sprint are all technical terms in one particular project management technology, and waterfall is another methodology. So using them all in an interview for a job as a project manager is a bit like a bike engineer using words like derailleur, sprocket and nipple in an equivalent situation. And not very like using "out of left field".
Rubbish, they are not technical terms, but invented slang which has the soul purpose of allowing those with useless certifications to mask and conceal common sense behind gobbledygook.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Rubbish, they are not technical terms, but invented slang which has the soul purpose of allowing those with useless certifications to mask and conceal common sense behind gobbledygook.

For a proper "agile" project all those words have quite specific meanings. Of course they are also used as general BS, presumably like your interview example It's possible to use jargon in a non-BS way eg "quantum-leap" isn't BS when Brian Cox is talking about electron energy levels. Likewise "agile", "scrum" etc in the context of a specific software development project technique - though terms are as used as BS on badly run projects as an excuse for not doing plans or documentation - but this is not the same thing.

If it's just "common sense" how do you distinguish between "waterfall", "agile", "extreme programming" etc - all valid in the right place if done properly but very different techniques.
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
I once heard someone in a pub say "I'd be in there like a rat up a drain pipe" which I thought was a pretty disgusting way to talk about someone, but I was quite impressed with the phrase itself.

That goes along with "Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs."

Us Yorkshiremen are not very good at all this yuppie wordplay. We still call a spade, a shovel.
 

SteCenturion

I am your Father
As keen as mustard is the phrase I was taught
Me too.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
It's looking a bit black over the back of Bill's mother's!

(In this case, it actually DOES - the weather is not so good here today, and my mate Bill's mum lives nearby, but the phrase is used in places where she does NOT live! :okay:)
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
watched a typically good Dave Gorman programme investigating some of these evolving phrases - I guess they're Mallopropisms really.

One was "it's a doggy dog world" apparently pre-dating the Snoop-dog song. More intruiging "bowl in a china shop" which had evolved from meaning clumsy to meaning fragile, to meaning unsuprising or dull. The someone misheard that and then used "bull in a china shop" to mean dull or mundane.

Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) describes a secretary mishearing the salesman's adage "don't sell past the close" as "don't sell plastic clothes" inferring the plausable meaning of not trying to sell daft products. They liked it enough to leave it it the sales guidance

I still don't think you can beat the original mallopropism "like an allegory on the banks of the Nile"
 

robjh

Legendary Member
Rubbish, they are not technical terms, but invented slang which has the soul purpose of allowing those with useless certifications to mask and conceal common sense behind gobbledygook.
No, I assure you they are all recognised terms in project management, eg. here, from Agile :
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As they are used in formal contexts by large numbers of people they are definitely not slang. As for invented, well yes of course they are, like every new phrase in a specialised field, so that is saying nothing.
Of course, you may personally think that what they refer to is a load of ***** (and who's to say you are wrong?), but that's another matter.
 

Tin Pot

Guru
Of course, you may personally think that what they refer to is a load of ***** (and who's to say you are wrong?), but that's another matter.

Let me take this wonderful opportunity!

"Agile" is a Load of Twattery.

Why any fool thought a software development methodology should be used for anything other than software development would be beyond me, if I didnt know it's because 'any fool' is an idiot.
 
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