Bonefish Blues
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22 in a 20 is deliberate too, as should be everything one does in a car, shirley?
How Many Times Does Same Excuse Avoid a Ban?
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cougie uk
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I think it's a much more marginal call than doing almost 30 over the limit.
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
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What do you mean by 'marginal call'
Whilst it wasn't my comment, my understanding is more police forces wouldn't do anything about 22 in a 20 limit.
Ian
Bonefish Blues
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Is that relevant? The speed I am driving at is always the result of a conscious decision I make, given I'm at the controls.
Time Waster
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If you are not payiing attention to speed it is possible to drift 2 mph higher for example a slight shift to downhill might do that. You should compensate but that does not always happen. That is perhaps excusable but 97mph is at least 27mph higher than the highest legal speed limit in England. That is not a slight drift to faster but a significant and concerted action to achieve at least a 27mph speed elevation over the speed limit. It is noticeable too. Someone doing 2mph more than you takes ages to overtake. 27mph faster and they are past you in seconds.
So I think that is something to make it worse than some who get caught speeding. I got done 15 or so years ago for 72mph on an empty motorway. 3 points for drifting over 70mph on a downhill stretch. Yet this guy got caught going at least 27mph over. I am not annoyed about getting the points, bang to rights, but I am annoyed by Coogan getting off without a ban.
I once read that there is a guy on something like 36 points on his licence without a ban. There are statistics somewhere about how many people are still driving around on more than the totting up limit for a disqualification. All won multiple exceptional hardship claims. A lot were businessmen who employed people IIRC.
So I think that is something to make it worse than some who get caught speeding. I got done 15 or so years ago for 72mph on an empty motorway. 3 points for drifting over 70mph on a downhill stretch. Yet this guy got caught going at least 27mph over. I am not annoyed about getting the points, bang to rights, but I am annoyed by Coogan getting off without a ban.
I once read that there is a guy on something like 36 points on his licence without a ban. There are statistics somewhere about how many people are still driving around on more than the totting up limit for a disqualification. All won multiple exceptional hardship claims. A lot were businessmen who employed people IIRC.
Ming the Merciless
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The speed you think you are driving. How accurate is your speedo required to be? How does tyre pressure and tread depth affect it? Does it have markings so you can see down to 2 mph, how many mph does the needle cover? How does your angle of view affect whether you think it’s 20 or 22 or 23 etc?
Hence their marginal comment.
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Nov 2024
Three male licence holders have more than 100 points, including a 26-year-old with 176, according to analysis of official figures by the PA news agency.
The woman with the most points is a 50-year-old with 96.
There are 53 people who have at least 30 points.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...ving-licences-with-at-least-30-points-on-them
Three male licence holders have more than 100 points, including a 26-year-old with 176, according to analysis of official figures by the PA news agency.
The woman with the most points is a 50-year-old with 96.
There are 53 people who have at least 30 points.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...ving-licences-with-at-least-30-points-on-them
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
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I know the speed I'm driving. I know my speedometer overread at different reference points because I've checked it against GPS. I'm the same height whenever I drive so parallax error isn't a factor. I am wholly accountable for my speed so I take care, as I do with all aspects of my driving.
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Speedos are required to over-read your speed - there's a maximum error specified.
They are not allowed to under-read at all.
So if your speedo is reading 70mph, you might only be doing 60 mph, but you won't be doing 71 or more. My car, at an indicated speed of 70 (on a digital display) is doing 65 according to a GPS.
On motorways, I set the cruise control to 69, but that's because I'm childish
Alex321
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In that case, I REALLY don't want to be on the same section of road as you.
If you are continually paying enough attention to your speedo to be sure within 1-2 mph what your speed is, then you are not paying enough attention to everything else around you.
Ming the Merciless
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Speedos are required to over-read your speed - there's a maximum error specified.
They are not allowed to under-read at all.
So if your speedo is reading 70mph, you might only be doing 60 mph, but you won't be doing 71 or more. My car, at an indicated speed of 70 (on a digital display) is doing 65 according to a GPS.
On motorways, I set the cruise control to 69, but that's because I'm childish
Which confirms 22 is marginal, 20 might read 22 and 22 read 24.2. The speedo shows they are between 20 and 25. Where as 30 over the limit, would be reading around 40 over limit for same speedo. Speed limit 60, clocked at 90 mph, his speedo would be reading around 100 mph. There’s no doubt how far above the limit you are.
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Marchrider
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I think as mentioned up thread we don't really care what happens to people on the road, Since Grenfell, something like 30,000 KSI, of which 13 - 14,000 killed. We hear about Grenfell nearly daily,
Profpointy
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We did this in a previous thread but at the risk of going back down that rabbit hole many of us would consider a touch over to be within a margin of error, whilst doing nearly the ton is clearly a deliberate decision not to care in the sligthest about any speed limits. The fact he was caught at least indicates he wasn't paying much attention to what was going on around him else he'd have seen the police car, be it marked or otherwise; unless he was paying attention and managed to get down from 120 before getting nabbed for only 97.
Bonefish Blues
Banging donk
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I said:
The speed I am driving at is always the result of a conscious decision I make, given I'm at the controls.
that's a rather different thing, perhaps?
