HGV Posters In London

[summerdays]

I don't totally agree with their picture either ... as I would be worried whether someone might read into it that it was OK to be next to the back wheel. However I like the simplicity of both images in comparison to some of the safety video's that have been produced in trying to get across to cyclists that they shouldn't be going along side a large vehicle at a junction.

 

[subaqua]

Ok, I do understand the issue of muppets undertaking lorries and buses, but the thing that really shocked me about that poster is how HUGE a lorry drivers blind spot is presented as being.

Is it really the case that three meters out from the entire length of a lorry is invisible to the driver?

If that really is the case, shouldn't something be done about that?

its mahoosive with that set up of mirrors. get a post 2000 set of mirrors and it diminishes somewhat. there is still a blind spot though.
one of the best things tfl did was the opportunity for cyclists to sit in a cab for a day and see the view a driver has. you got some good feedback from cyclists who just had no idea.

when i learnt to drive a HGV ( LGV its called now) the instructor made sure blind spot awarenesss was hammered in. many times i have cuaght a flash of something in a mirror and stopped. surprising how much abuse can be given by somebody who is clueless to what they did to endanger themselves and a sharp eye of a driver saved them form injury.

 

[dellzeqq]

Western avenue is fine, traffic keeps moving until just before the big roundabout, so not good for a filtering contest

The A4 from Chiswick is good in rush hour, but careful on the hammersmith flyover, there's a big gap you have to bunnyhop over, but then the run past North End Road to the Earl's Court bit is great fun

Brian Gould, the man who taught me an engineering module in my first year in college designed that gap. I'm afraid that I was a little less than respectful. Actually, Zimmers, I might have been a lot less than respectful. But, forgive me, if it's a cold day and the bridge deck has shrunk then jumping that thing will persuade hardened atheists of the merits of prayer.

 

[Paul_L]

haven't read all the replies, but FWIW, i think the poster is a good thing.

The first rule about what to do in a dangerous position is don't put yourself in a dangerous position in the first place.

 

[gaz]

haven't read all the replies, but FWIW, i think the poster is a good thing.

The first rule about what to do in a dangerous position is don't put yourself in a dangerous position in the first place.

Sometimes the position comes to you.

 

[Norm]

Brian Gould, the man who taught me an engineering module in my first year in college designed that gap. I'm afraid that I was a little less than respectful. Actually, Zimmers, I might have been a lot less than respectful. But, forgive me, if it's a cold day and the bridge deck has shrunk then jumping that thing will persuade hardened atheists of the merits of prayer.

That gap had me praying daily when I worked in Earls Court, and that was on a motor bike with a 190 section rear tyre.

 

[BentMikey]

Sometimes the position comes to you.

Well put. It does irk me when forumites don't realise that this happens. Especially Lee, it seemed.

 

[zimzum42]

That gap had me praying daily when I worked in Earls Court, and that was on a motor bike with a 190 section rear tyre.

23mm tyres. Fixed Wheel. Hop and hope!!!

 

[subaqua]

Well put. It does irk me when forumites don't realise that this happens. Especially Lee, it seemed.

sadly i have to agree that sometimes a lorry does sneak up on you from behind, i mean they are so quiet compared to other vehicles.

if the lane is narrow i am in the middle of the lane so i don't get caught by the forgetful driver behind me.


and please not all drivers are donkeycircles, one put himself between a white van and me today as the van driver wasn't looking. i had by then left a good chunk of rubber on the road from the emergency braking

 

[Paul_L]

Well put. It does irk me when forumites don't realise that this happens. Especially Lee, it seemed.

I wasn't saying it doesn't happen.

I was saying that the poster sends a good message to people who, without a care in the world routinely find themselves on the inside of a potential left hooker.

Bad things happen, and careful cyclists sometimes end up in risky situations through no fault of their own. But it's all about minimising the risks and the poster is helpful in that regards.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

haven't read all the replies, but FWIW, i think the poster is a good thing.

The first rule about what to do in a dangerous position is don't put yourself in a dangerous position in the first place.

Sometimes the position comes to you.

In which case an awareness of the dangerour position position is still a good thing...to acknowlege it and get yourself out of it

 

[BentMikey]

Which still ignores the possibility that said situation may occur faster than even an experienced cyclist can deal with. Many of the HGV killed cyclists were experienced. Who is to say that any of us enthusiasts could have avoided their deaths in their places?

 

[ttcycle]

Sometimes the position comes to you.

yes, completely!

I remember one of the most stressful parts of the commute to Clapham junction was the amount of HGVs that would just zoom past on a narrow road. Bloody did my head in! Glad I don't have to commute through there anymore

 

[gaz]

Which still ignores the possibility that said situation may occur faster than even an experienced cyclist can deal with. Many of the HGV killed cyclists were experienced. Who is to say that any of us enthusiasts could have avoided their deaths in their places?

Defining experience can be hard though. Whilst I agree, a vast quantity of the cyclists deaths in London where a hgv is involved, the cyclist was experienced.
That unfortunatly doesn't always translate to a safe cyclist.

I'm not saying that I, or anyone else could do better. As I, and you have said. It can sometimes come to you and faster than you expect and can process!

 

[gaz]

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Are you talking about being stationary at a red light or just riding along the road normally and being left-hooked?
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More so stopped at a red light or junction. But an overtake could be applied as well.