Having to wear a helmet to do a sportive

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threebikesmcginty

Corn Fed Hick...
Location
...on the slake
Looks like you might be a bit late with the melon idea looking at these bad-ass dudes

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Fiona N

Veteran
My Mom never wore a helmet in her sixty five years of cycling. She much prefered a headscarf.
The day will come, Fiona.....;)

No doubt :biggrin: - in the meantime, does a buff count?
 

Alun

Guru
Location
Liverpool
Here is a test you could try yourself, press your head hard against a normal road surface, keeping it pressed there walk along at say 5mph for 10 feet, now try doing the same with an helmet on. Now I know this test is not scientific and I am not wanting to be the person that does it.

Can I ask just as a matter of interest of course, does anyone who does not wear a helmet do the lottery?

I must say that I am all for freedom of choice and I wear a helmet.

I tried this but was unable to walk in this position at all never mind at 5 mph, and it made my back hurt. Are there any other tests available, which would demonstrate a cycle helmets effectiveness?
 

screenman

Legendary Member
You are obviously not doing enough stretching, for those less flexible I suppose it could be tested on a brick wall.


Now I am just having fun with this post as many are, I agree at the end of the day we are all lucky to have choice to wear or not to wear, even to this day we have a choice of events some that enforce and some do not.

I never for once consider my helmet to be a life saver, now a saver of my extremely good looks, and saver of severe scaring to my brain box, these are some of the reasons why I wear a helmet.

Always a helmet wearer by choice, not only that but it makes me look younger, leaner, fitter and far more intelligent.
 
Here is a test you could try yourself, press your head hard against a normal road surface, keeping it pressed there walk along at say 5mph for 10 feet, now try doing the same with an helmet on. Now I know this test is not scientific and I am not wanting to be the person that does it.

Can I ask just as a matter of interest of course, does anyone who does not wear a helmet do the lottery?

I must say that I am all for freedom of choice and I wear a helmet.

(Now repeat wearing a large fruit...... as it will be as effective as the helmet, does this mean all cyclists should wear fruit on their heads?) Sorry missed the other fruit related posts

Actually you have a relevant point as modern designs of helmets would arrest the movement due to poorly designed "snag points" and often eject the helmet entirely....so what type of helmet do you advocate for the test?
 

screenman

Legendary Member
Not really bothered which type of helmet, I will also volunteer for the part of the test that includes the helmet, now all I need is a volunteer from the non wearing community to do the other part of the test.

:tongue:
 
The saddest and most ironic thing here is that we are talking about a product that is far less effective now than ten years ago as the design has increased the number of vents, decreased the amount of working material and increased the density of the remaining material.

The UK standard (EN1078) is considered so weak that in a US Sportive it would be banned, and the modern designs are heavily criticised by the experts. MAny pointing out that these designs are virtually useless in an impact.

The most severe brain injuries (Diffuse Axonal Injury) are caused by rapid deceleration of the head, or twisting. Both of which become more likely when the helmet loses a smooth spherical shape. Snag points now common on many helmets can actively contribute to these injuries.

Then we have the issue of facial injuries. The British Dental Association points out that present helmet design does not cover the face, and two thirds of serious injuries occur in this unprotected area. They are now looking at a campaign for full face helmets for this reason.

So really we must ask the helmet evangelists whether they are really interested in safety and will be wearing the optimum protection of a round smooth, non vented helmet with thick absorbent material and a full face, and if not please explain why?

After all if it is really about protection, why compromise with a lesser product?
 

screenman

Legendary Member
Has there ever been a successful court action against the manufacturer of a cycle helmet when involved in an accident?

I will ask again do any non wearers do the lottery?
 

screenman

Legendary Member
You could be right.

There is an old saying that ends,( beat you with experience), looks like I am beaten.

I will now get my crash helmet and await the flack.

Good fun guys thanks for joining in the banter, I hope nobody has taken any offence whilst the discussion has been going on.
 
Has there ever been a successful court action against the manufacturer of a cycle helmet when involved in an accident?

I will ask again do any non wearers do the lottery?

Please tell me you are not going to claim that amongst all the other phenomenal and mythical attributes that helmets will help you win the lottery....
 

screenman

Legendary Member
The lottery bit was about taking chances, gambling. What are the odds, maybe greater that a helmet may help or winning the top money. Just trying to keep the banter going that's all.

threebikes, does that mean you are going to change your name to a alotmorebikes
 
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