Hamilton; surely he's not going to blow it again? Is he?

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col

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I loved it,that final lap was a real cliffhanger,but he kept his cool and didnt push too hard and stayed on the track to win,he has injected a lot of interest into the sport,i like him,i was rooting for him all season,and when he went into sixth i nearly fell off the settee.
 

Rhythm Thief

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Smokin Joe said:
I fail to see what Hamilton does to annoy people, perhaps someone could explain?

Or have we all been watching to many media coached celebrity's who have been carefully told exactly what lightweight rubbish they need to say that when a genuine person is interviewed we don't understand them?

Hamilton, great driver and worthy world champion though he is, annoys me because he comes acrosss as patronising and everything he says seems to have been written for him by his sponsors. And why do we need to hear from his bloody father all the time? In fact, the whole of McLaren annoy me because they seem so passionless and ... corporate. (Yes, I know they're just doing their jobs.) Raikonnen is exactly the opposite; he hates the bullshit and the media and says what he thinks, which I like, and Ferarri seem to demonstrate more passion for the racing. As for not liking winners in this country, I'd love to see a British winner who hadn't been quite so carefully groomed and wasn't so corporate. I always wanted Anthony Davidson to do well and I liked it when Button and Coulthard won or finished towards the front. I just don't like Hamilton much.
 

col

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Rhythm Thief said:
Hamilton, great driver and worthy world champion though he is, annoys me because he comes acrosss as patronising and everything he says seems to have been written for him by his sponsors. And why do we need to hear from his bloody father all the time? In fact, the whole of McLaren annoy me because they seem so passionless and ... corporate. (Yes, I know they're just doing their jobs.) Raikonnen is exactly the opposite; he hates the bullshit and the media and says what he thinks, which I like, and Ferarri seem to demonstrate more passion for the racing. As for not liking winners in this country, I'd love to see a British winner who hadn't been quite so carefully groomed and wasn't so corporate. I always wanted Anthony Davidson to do well and I liked it when Button and Coulthard won or finished towards the front. I just don't like Hamilton much.


He comes across to me as a quiet lad who doesnt have much to say,i suppose when we meet someone for the first time we can take a like/dislike to them instantly,this is also probably true of famous people too.
 

marinyork

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Rhythm Thief said:
Hamilton, great driver and worthy world champion though he is, annoys me because he comes acrosss as patronising and everything he says seems to have been written for him by his sponsors. And why do we need to hear from his bloody father all the time? In fact, the whole of McLaren annoy me because they seem so passionless and ... corporate. (Yes, I know they're just doing their jobs.) Raikonnen is exactly the opposite; he hates the bullshit and the media and says what he thinks, which I like, and Ferarri seem to demonstrate more passion for the racing. As for not liking winners in this country, I'd love to see a British winner who hadn't been quite so carefully groomed and wasn't so corporate. I always wanted Anthony Davidson to do well and I liked it when Button and Coulthard won or finished towards the front. I just don't like Hamilton much.

That's just Do-Ron and it is a lot of his fault Hamilton is like that, then again I think a bit of Coulthard's soul got sucked out at McLaren. I still like McLaren though and I respect Ron Dennis more than any other team boss currently there. I think it is an unfair criticism though as in the Manufacturer's Age they are pretty much all corporate. When Michael was around I'd say it was even worse at ferrari. Since Massa and Raikkonen have come along they seem to have lightened up a bit and it's like the early days of Berger and Alesi. The same I think of the groomed superstar that ticks all the right boxes is true of most of the big sports stars in various sports the last decade or so :biggrin:.

I like Raikkonen for the same reasons and was pleased he did win a championship on the 3rd serious attempt.
 

Rhythm Thief

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marinyork said:
That's just Do-Ron and it is a lot of his fault Hamilton is like that, then again I think a bit of Coulthard's soul got sucked out at McLaren.

Yes, I noticed that. Coulthard seemed instantly happier and more laid back when he left McLaren. I suppose it's not really Hamilton's fault (as you say), but I seem to have a problem with McLaren full stop.
 

marinyork

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I'm not sure how much of it is Hamilton's personality and upbringing but he reminds me very much of someone I lived with at university who had a very similar personal appearance, age, supportive dad who had promoted him and weird answers to questions in exactly the same sort of way Hamilton does. He was a nice enough chap but one that was very hard to get on with.
 
Hamilton seems very smooth and coached off the track. I can understand that, if you're facing the world's media you'd want some training and a teflon veneer. On the track though he's about as raw and real as you could wish. :biggrin:
 

Andy in Sig

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It's nice that Hamilton won but it's a shame that this will almost certainly mean that he gets Sports Personality of the Year as car driving is a bit like horse sport in that the bloke only does a little bit of the work i.e. it's not really a sport as opposed to real sports where all the power and energy comes from the participant. I just can't see a real sportsman or woman getting it now.
 

Maz

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I don't really follow F1, but how close was Hamilton to not winning the title? I understand it was a close run thing.
 
Andy in Sig said:
It's nice that Hamilton won but it's a shame that this will almost certainly mean that he gets Sports Personality of the Year as car driving is a bit like horse sport in that the bloke only does a little bit of the work i.e. it's not really a sport as opposed to real sports where all the power and energy comes from the participant. I just can't see a real sportsman or woman getting it now.
Motor racing is just as real as any other sport. Should I bother to vote, I will be going for Hamilton.

I don't vote for people just because they are cyclists.
 

Andy in Sig

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I wouldn't vote for anybody just because they are cyclists, although by pure coindidence this year's outstanding British sportsman does seem to be the track chap. All I'm saying is is that car driving can't really be regarded as a sport. I accept Smeggers's point that F1 drivers have to be fit in order to be able to function but that alone does not make them sportsmen.
 

marinyork

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Maz said:
I don't really follow F1, but how close was Hamilton to not winning the title? I understand it was a close run thing.

The closest run thing you ever saw in your life :biggrin:.
 

marinyork

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Mr Pig said:
So, what do we think the story with Glock was? Words behind the scenes, scratch our back and we''ll scratch yours?

The toyotas were particularly bad in the slightly damp after heavy rain conditions. We saw it earlier in the race where trulli got massacred sliding around and nearly took some of the opposition to Hamilton off.
 
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