Oh, and ps. Also stating the ability of 4 x 4's off road ability based on what you've heard, or read is pretty silly too. I've been on a proper off road course and seen what Land Rovers (RRS, RR Vogue, and Defender), can do, and I guarantee no saloon, or Yet, or Panda would do the same. It's not just down to whether you have 2 or 4 driven wheels, it's the electronics, the amount of clearance, the wheel travel, and a hundred other things which you haven't thought about, as well as wheel and tyre choice, or course, which as cyclists we should all know will make or break the traction efficiency of any wheeled vehicle!