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Your phyiso is right though we just want toHim: (laughing) You cyclists are nuts. Completely nuts. You're all the ruddy same.
Your phyiso is right though we just want toHim: (laughing) You cyclists are nuts. Completely nuts. You're all the ruddy same.
U14's Captain "Do you think he's a knob as well?"
No, they accept a ref that consistently makes decisions that affect both sides. Our lot have it drilled into them to keep onside at the breakdown and to ruck properly and legally. This particular ref "missed" the fact that the opposition had apparently been coached to kill the ball every tackle by lying on the wrong side and he allowed their 3/4s to live offside for the whole match. The lads find it frustrating if what they have spent time and trouble learning is rendered ineffective by basic cheating, and they consider it's the ref's responsibility to prevent cheats from gaining possession unlawfully. He was a society ref, this was a Yorks Cup fixture. We used the example to teach them to play the ref better, and to make sure they understand that a 40 year old doesn't like being told how to do his job by a 14 year old!Someone needs a lesson in referee management. Start now, by the time he gets to senior rugby he'll be a tidy captain.
Funny how refs who penalise stuff are always knobs. Especially in the eyes of teenagers who most probably have never reffed a game in thiei lives and think they are allowed to tell the ref how to ref the game and what to ping. Of course, if he wasn't a society referee he probably was a knob... most club refs give me indigestion.
But be assured that if there's any suspicion that you actually know any of the laws they will be changed immediately.1735023 said:It's the law. Accept that you are better off learning it.
have you conveyed your concerns to the society? otherwise others will get the same treatment. Don't know how yorks do feedback. such a performance in Sussex would have had a phone ringing somewhere.No, they accept a ref that consistently makes decisions that affect both sides. Our lot have it drilled into them to keep onside at the breakdown and to ruck properly and legally. This particular ref "missed" the fact that the opposition had apparently been coached to kill the ball every tackle by lying on the wrong side and he allowed their 3/4s to live offside for the whole match. The lads find it frustrating if what they have spent time and trouble learning is rendered ineffective by basic cheating, and they consider it's the ref's responsibility to prevent cheats from gaining possession unlawfully. He was a society ref, this was a Yorks Cup fixture. We used the example to teach them to play the ref better, and to make sure they understand that a 40 year old doesn't like being told how to do his job by a 14 year old!
We got ourselves reff'd out of a match the other day. Our fly half makes a tackle halfway between 22 and 5m line. The kid drops the ball knocking it on. Fly half hacks it into touch just to make sure and the ref gives lineout to them about 7 metres out. They scored, taking them from two points behind with 20s to go, to three points ahead. Thus ended our Cup campaign for this year. We can sit and moan, but it all ends up as sour grapes.have you conveyed your concerns to the society? otherwise others will get the same treatment. Don't know how yorks do feedback. such a performance in Sussex would have had a phone ringing somewhere.
I'm surprised that a society ref, given the amount of observation/assessment that goes on, would be allowed to officiate in any game of any importance with such weaknesses in his basic skills. Odd too that he should manifest them only in respect one side and not the other, though you may have coached it out of your lads (see below) Clearly Yorkshire do it differently to Sussex. Of course he may be a noob just out of ELRA doing U14's cos the society don't think the game/or him worthy of anything better.
Now I'll commit referee heresy.... Playing to the ref cuts both ways. If the man can't ref the breakdown properly and is rubbish at spotting 3/4's off-side (not always material but honestly materiality shouldn't enter into age grade rugby) why aren't you coaching your players to be streetwise enough to exploit that? Cynical moi? as an ex-coach you bet your life.
1754272 said:And my Swiss Army knife?
Heading towards a crossing, lights on green for me and two women half way across. Both saw me and gave one of those little slow motion runs to the kerb. They were both safely on the kerb by some way before I got there.
Me: "I'm not that fast ladies", say I as I pass
1st woman: "Oooh, you looked it though"
2nd woman: "You look quite fit from here", both laugh
me: ...........Can't think of anything to say back and by the time I do, they are well out of earshot