Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[david k]

It's worth reading David Millar's account of taking Kenacort (Triamcinolone) for a description of its effects - both positive and negative:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/how-to-get-away-with-doping.html

It's difficult to reconcile this account (and others) with the idea that a doctor would prescribe this medication (especially administered by intramuscular injection) to treat a bout of hayfever.

Interesting read, I've also read his book

Cannot help thinking for the TUE to be manipulated takes more than one person....usually
I cannot believe it is available if it's more of a PED than a legitimate drug, surely with 20 years of exposure to drug cheats, manipulation and negative publicity they would close this seemingly obvious loophole? It really makes me shake my head in disbelief, not at the riders or teams, we know what they are like but the authorities.

 

[david k]

what did you say mr pro cyclist you have hayfever and your gonna suffer cycling through france in july, well tough shyte looks like your gonna suffer then, or don't bother with this cycling lark.

get rid of TUE'S altogether, solves the problem of them being abused

I'm about twice the weight of a professional rider, this puts them at an unfair advantage, they should ride with an 100 kg back pack on a snow bike to ensure it's a level playing field

 

[Milkfloat]

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am i miss interprating this tweet (s**t spelling i know)

I heard the interview. UKAD saying 'no evidence' is nothing like your claim that they said 'Sky had done nothing wrong'.

 

[roadrash]

I'm about twice the weight of a professional rider, this puts them at an unfair advantage, they should ride with an 100 kg back pack on a snow bike to ensure it's a level playing field

I didn't realise you was competing against the pros

 

[smutchin]

am i miss interprating this tweet

Yes, I think so. But it's hard to know what to make of the tweet since it's not a direct quote and probably doesn't convey the full content of what she said.

If you want some more context for Sapstead's comments, you only have to look at what she has said previously:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/01/british-cycling-team-sky-package-bradley-wiggins

 

[jowwy]

I heard the interview. UKAD saying 'no evidence' is nothing like your claim that they said 'Sky had done nothing wrong'.

its not my claim, but the claim within the Tweet sent out by cycling plus......

 

[jowwy]

Yes, I think so. But it's hard to know what to make of the tweet since it's not a direct quote and probably doesn't convey the full content of what she said.

If you want some more context for Sapstead's comments, you only have to look at what she has said previously:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/01/british-cycling-team-sky-package-bradley-wiggins

so what part of the tweet am i misinterprating??

 

[hopless500]

it makes a big difference as he was never interviewed by the MPs therefore he cant have said it in their report...........and its quite easy for papers to crop, paste and type things out of context to make it look more damning than it actually was/is

You're missing the point. It's nothing to do with the report. It is to do with him lying - saying one thing at one time and then saying something different another.

 

[jowwy]

I heard the interview. UKAD saying 'no evidence' is nothing like your claim that they said 'Sky had done nothing wrong'.

if someone says " no evidence of wrong doing" does that not mean, they did nothing wrong?

 

[jowwy]

You're missing the point. It's nothing to do with the report. It is to do with him lying - saying one thing at one time and then saying something different another.

see i was always brought up with the following saying

"you have to have a good memory to be a liar, so if you always tell the truth you can never get caught out".

so is it a case of bad memory or a case of lying??

 

[david k]

I didn't realise you was competing against the pros

Until they agree to a level playing field I'm not playing

 

[jowwy]

Yes, I think so. But it's hard to know what to make of the tweet since it's not a direct quote and probably doesn't convey the full content of what she said.

If you want some more context for Sapstead's comments, you only have to look at what she has said previously:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/01/british-cycling-team-sky-package-bradley-wiggins

so that report from the guardian was dated 1st March 2017.........what about what she said in todays interview on radio5 live, that cycling plus tweeted about???

 

[smutchin]

so what part of the tweet am i misinterprating??

"UKAD found no evidence of wrongdoing at Sky" is absolutely not at all the same as "UKAD state that Sky did nothing wrong"

Either you're being disingenuous or... there's the other possibility.

 

[jowwy]

"UKAD found no evidence of wrongdoing at Sky" is absolutely not at all the same as "UKAD state that Sky did nothing wrong"

Either you're being disingenuous or... there's the other possibility.

if there is NO evidence in wrong doing, then how could they have done something wrong. explain???

its like charging somebody for murder, but saying theres no evidence available to back it up................UKAD found no EVIDENCE of WRONG doing, so in essence, they did NOTHING wrong

 

[roadrash]

not finding ecidence does not mean it doesn't exist , theres no in essence about it and wiggins has Not been charged with anything so the comparison is mute, you can accuse someone of murder but you wouldn't charge them with no evidence