Froome and Wiggins TUEs

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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me

hoopdriver

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East Sussex
He's guilty of returning an adverse analytical finding.

Innocent screw up - that's just mitigation, ask Simon Yates

Metabolic issue - UCI told Ulissi it's not even mitigation

Whatever comes out of the politicking he'll always have an asterisk now.
He returned an adverse finding. Guilt (of anything) is yet to be established. I have had a long career in journalism, both editing and writing, and it would do my head in to have to deal with a reporter who was as loose with words and meanings are you are.
 
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Joffey

Big Dosser
Location
Yorkshire
I think it is about time TUE's were banned. If your body isn't up to competing as a professional without taking otherwise banned substances then tough - you'll just have to do as everyone else does and find another career.

Yeah, you have ADHD - sorry mate, despite being able to ride a bike really fast @SmokinJoe decided TUE's are banned so you can just sit at home...

See other conditions such as:

Transgender Athletes
Renal Transplantation
Sleep Disorders
Diabetes
Plus another 100+ general conditions that you get tablets for.

At this rate we can get rid of 50% of all sports people in the country!!
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
I didn't realise he'd also failed a whereabouts, he was so quick to denounce lizzie armitstead and yet expects everyone to give him the benefit of the doubt...
lizzie failed 3 in a row.........thats why he denounced her, failing one by mistake fine.......failing 3 in a row, come on
 

NickNick

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you have ADHD - sorry mate, despite being able to ride a bike really fast @SmokinJoe decided TUE's are banned so you can just sit at home...

See other conditions such as:

Transgender Athletes
Renal Transplantation
Sleep Disorders
Diabetes
Plus another 100+ general conditions that you get tablets for.

At this rate we can get rid of 50% of all sports people in the country!!

But most of those tablets aren't performance enhancing in any meaningful way, corticosteroids on the other hand...
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
he had an execption certificate so that he DIDNT fail a test, as the testers would already know whats in his system.....also it was a whereabouts test he failed not a drugs test.........keep up lad
What's a whereabouts test to you if it's not a drugs test?

I liked Wiggins, he's still the startup screen on one of my computers, I don't think he deliberately cheated, but I think he was badly advised (by whom, I'm unsure... team sky management or medics seem most likely), pushed the limits without incurring a ban and I'm undecided about the jiffy bag. The case against him seems unproven rather than disproved, so we have to consider him innocent of doping, but it seems clear he failed some drug tests on whereabouts (bizarre given his comments on Armitstead) and explained others only by TUE.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
what a grown up answer that is.............
 

NickNick

Well-Known Member
lizzie failed 3 in a row.........thats why he denounced her, failing one by mistake fine.......failing 3 in a row, come on

He could have just kept his mouth shut, which seeing as he expects everyone to give him the benefit of the doubt, is the least he could have done. He comes as an arrogant piece of work and that's before even getting onto his so called charity that just seemed to help his family and mates.

tbf to Lizzie the first one wasn't valid as they hadn't tried hard enough to find her and the one missed when her FIL was hospitalised is also understandable imo. I'm much more willing to give that the benefit of the doubt than conveniently timed shots of corticosteroids...
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
What's a whereabouts test to you if it's not a drugs test?

I liked Wiggins, he's still the startup screen on one of my computers, I don't think he deliberately cheated, but I think he was badly advised (by whom, I'm unsure... team sky management or medics seem most likely), pushed the limits without incurring a ban and I'm undecided about the jiffy bag. The case against him seems unproven rather than disproved, so we have to consider him innocent of doping, but it seems clear he failed some drug tests on whereabouts (bizarre given his comments on Armitstead) and explained others only by TUE.
However, a report in the Daily Mail on Fridayhas now alleged that the 36-year-old, who is set to retire after next month’s Six Days of Ghent race, provided insufficient information about where he would be after returning from the Tour of California. According to the report, Wiggins blamed the time difference and the fact it was an overnight flight but the incident was still marked down as a missed test - NOT A FAILED TEST
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
lizzie failed 3 in a row.........thats why he denounced her, failing one by mistake fine.......failing 3 in a row, come on
Wasn't it 3 in a year, rather than in a row? And one was overturned due to tester malpractice, wasn't it? Also, one of them seemed partly due to BC saying they'd help her manage the ADAMS whereabouts system, then reassigning the worker to something they prioritise over women and not telling her the support was ending.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Wasn't it 3 in a year, rather than in a row? And one was overturned due to tester malpractice, wasn't it? Also, one of them seemed partly due to BC saying they'd help her manage the ADAMS whereabouts system, then reassigning the worker to something they prioritise over women and not telling her the support was ending.
saying its not my fault, cause someone else was supposed to manage it for me, doesn't really cut it
 

NickNick

Well-Known Member
Wasn't it 3 in a year, rather than in a row. Also, one of them seemed partly due to BC saying they'd help her manage the ADAMS whereabouts system, then reassigning the worker to something they prioritise over women and not telling her the support was ending.

Yep, also unlike many of the male pro cyclists she was doing all the organisational/admin stuff herself rather than having an assistant or coach to help out with it.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
[QUOTE 5077944, member: 43827"]I have to take Salbutamol each day. Before the next ride I'm going to take an extra puff, perhaps it will help me up Caerphilly mountain.[/QUOTE]
tough mountain to climb.....best take 2 extra just in case lol
 
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