Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[jowwy]

Dont be silly, I said he hasn't taken a banned drug or even abused a TUE, he's overdosed* on an allowed drug..... the outcome we will wait and see.

* Even that's speculation.

how can the overdose be classed as speculation????

 

[jowwy]

To answer would be to speculate and Im not playing that game

2 questions -

1 . did chris froome fail his A and B Sample drugs test?
2. Did he fail it for being overdosed by twice the amount on Salbutamol?

if the answer to the both is YES then there's NO speculation

 

[Bollo]

... and we'll await the outcome

As @jowwy has said, he's failed a test. Overdose or banned substance, the test has been failed. Most people on here haven't speculated what'll happen next, and even if they have ...... Froome has failed a test.

He may have a perfectly reasonable and fully documented reason for failing the test and that may be accepted and his career can carry on. Even so, the test doesn't become 'unfailed'.

The take-away bullet point from this .... Froome failed the test.

 

[User169]

Soooo. Froome was informed of the adverse finding on 20 Sept. UCI make a statement on 13 Dec.

What has governed the timing of these? And when will there be a final hearing?

I'm just worried on @Shaun 's behalf in case he needs to reserve some extra storage for this thread. Capacity planning and all that.

I think the UCI's hand has been forced since the Guardian and Le Monde somehow got wind of the adverse finding.

 

[Smokin Joe]

I think it is about time TUE's were banned. If your body isn't up to competing as a professional without taking otherwise banned substances then tough - you'll just have to do as everyone else does and find another career.

 

[Bollo]

[QUOTE 5077797, member: 9609"]seems to be a lot of asthma sufferers amongst top cyclists, presumably it is just a coincidence that the medication is performance enhancing?[/QUOTE]
I knew I'd read something about that in the last couple of years...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/28/asthma-elite-athletes-study-swimmers-cyclist-eid

 

[NickNick]

[QUOTE 5077797, member: 9609"]seems to be a lot of asthma sufferers amongst top cyclists, presumably it is just a coincidence that the medication is performance enhancing?[/QUOTE]

Its an odd one isn't it! Presumably if you have asthma so bad you are needing special injections and/or ultra high doses of medication, this would have been a bit of a handicap at the start of their career and would reduce chances of making it to pro level. Not saying you wouldn't expect any pro cyclists with Asthma, but you sure wouldn't expect such a high concentration at the most elite level.

 

[User169]

I think it is about time TUE's were banned. If your body isn't up to competing as a professional without taking otherwise banned substances then tough - you'll just have to do as everyone else does and find another career.

I think it would be a great shame for the Novo team, for example.

 

[mjr]

im NOT the original OP of this thread

@T.M.H.N.E.T show me any article were it states wiggins has failed a drug test and @mjr can you also do the same please????

If he wasn't failing tests, why did he have exemption certificates to present to testers?

Also, do you not regard whereabouts fails as fails? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/14/bradley-wiggins-failed-whereabouts-test-rio-olympics

 

[smutchin]

marmion and the CC keyboard warriors will still blame wiggins

You're the one who brought up Wiggins in response to a story about Froome, and the only one who keeps mentioning Wiggins. Give it a rest. It's boring.

 

[jowwy]

1. Do you know the doctor willfully advised Froome to up his dose knowing he would fail a test?
2. Do you know Froomes body acted normally to an increased dose of Salbutamol?
3. Does the same dose of Salbutamol affect all people in the same way,?
3. Do you know of any additional detail not provided to us as yet as a) medical privacy and b) ongoing legalities?

I could go on, but I wont, as I say, its speculation, so pointless.

your questions are not valid as nobody knows those answers and nobody is making those judgements. but what we do know uncategorically is that froome failed his drugs test

 

[jowwy]

You're the one who brought up Wiggins in response to a story about Froome, and the only one who keeps mentioning Wiggins. Give it a rest. It's boring.

the same as all your posts about wiggins was boring, but you still kept making them..................another anti wiggo warrior whos had egg thrown in his face

 

[derrick]

As said before, if you cannot perform without drugs find something else to do, My wife has sport induced asthma, she is using an inhaler and her performance on a bike has got so much better, i don't have a problem with that, as it means we do not have to keep stopping for her to keep up, Plus she is not a professional sports person, but no doubt some of her Strava followers would not be happy.

 

[User169]

1. Do you know the doctor willfully advised Froome to up his dose knowing he would fail a test?
2. Do you know Froomes body acted normally to an increased dose of Salbutamol?
3. Does the same dose of Salbutamol affect all people in the same way,?
3. Do you know of any additional detail not provided to us as yet as a) medical privacy and b) ongoing legalities?

I could go on, but I wont, as I say, its speculation, so pointless.

Yep. Pretty sure you will.

 

[smutchin]

2. Do you know Froomes body acted normally to an increased dose of Salbutamol?
3. Does the same dose of Salbutamol affect all people in the same way,?

If Froome chooses to go down that route in his defence against the AAF, he will have to undergo controlled tests to show that his body doesn't metabolise salbutamol in the normal way.

All I can say to him is good luck with that.