That was me being less than clear. By " facilities " i meant the toilet / refreshment facilities, not the big heated swimming pool or Fitness area.
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That was me being less than clear. By " facilities " i meant the toilet / refreshment facilities, not the big heated swimming pool or Fitness area.
On you tube I often watch the Mac Master.
He's a blogger that travels around different holiday destinations abroad and in this country and gives his honest reviews on various restaurants he visits.
Lately he's been talking and reviewing his Porsche EV and he absolutely hates it.
Don't "quote me" but he bought this car around 2/3 years back and it cost stupid money,I think it was well over 100k.
He was saying if he was to sell it/hand it back now, he would only get 35/40 k for it, but he would still owe 70k putting him in negative equity for it.
He's just done a challenge with it against another YouTube blogger that owns a diesel car where they were to travel from John O'Groats to Lands End.
Well it was a complete disaster for him,The waiting around trying to get a charger on the service stations was just a complete nightmare to the point he was ready to throw the towel in.It took him hours to get one on some occasions, and eventually got to the end of his journey hours behind the other car.When they added up the costs the diesel BMW was significantly cheaper than the EV to do the journey.
He was also showing the low wattage these chargers where pumping out at the service stations and the problems of them not working at all.
I'm no expert but why are these charging stations only pumping out low wattage.Is it because the national grid is overstretched?
If this is the case, is that why certain electricity companies are paying customers to not use electricity at certain times of the day?If I'm correct these charging stations can deliver somewhere up to 70kw/h.Thats a hell of a demand on the grid if you think of the amount of EV there are nowadays.
Is this the reason why our domestic electric bills have gone through the roof, because at the end of the day it's all about supply and demand.
If you get time look him up on YouTube.
He's good at what he does and I think he really is painting a true picture of reality of what it's like to own an EV.Great for short planned journeys ,but a nightmare for longer cross country jaunts
He's a blogger that travels around different holiday destinations abroad and in this country and gives his honest reviews on various restaurants he visits.
Lately he's been talking and reviewing his Porsche EV and he absolutely hates it.
Don't "quote me" but he bought this car around 2/3 years back and it cost stupid money,I think it was well over 100k.
He was saying if he was to sell it/hand it back now, he would only get 35/40 k for it, but he would still owe 70k putting him in negative equity for it.
He's just done a challenge with it against another YouTube blogger that owns a diesel car where they were to travel from John O'Groats to Lands End.
Well it was a complete disaster for him,The waiting around trying to get a charger on the service stations was just a complete nightmare to the point he was ready to throw the towel in.It took him hours to get one on some occasions, and eventually got to the end of his journey hours behind the other car.When they added up the costs the diesel BMW was significantly cheaper than the EV to do the journey.
He was also showing the low wattage these chargers where pumping out at the service stations and the problems of them not working at all.
I'm no expert but why are these charging stations only pumping out low wattage.Is it because the national grid is overstretched?
If this is the case, is that why certain electricity companies are paying customers to not use electricity at certain times of the day?If I'm correct these charging stations can deliver somewhere up to 70kw/h.Thats a hell of a demand on the grid if you think of the amount of EV there are nowadays.
Is this the reason why our domestic electric bills have gone through the roof, because at the end of the day it's all about supply and demand.
If you get time look him up on YouTube.
He's good at what he does and I think he really is painting a true picture of reality of what it's like to own an EV.Great for short planned journeys ,but a nightmare for longer cross country jaunts
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New EV owner here and yes not brave enough to have gone far yet . We were about to do a proper test on Saturday of a round trip of 250 miles in our EQC . As it happened the good lady wasn’t well so I took my car instead . It takes a bit of planning to do that journey. Longer range will come eventually and then it’s less of an issue .
It would also seem that if you’re gonna drive all over the country , you need to do it in a Tesla , only reason being the charging network apparently works better than the public ones .
It would also seem that if you’re gonna drive all over the country , you need to do it in a Tesla , only reason being the charging network apparently works better than the public ones .
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Not much planning. You will need one stop at a supercharger. Usually the easiest way is to park somewhere with a supercharger at the destination, but if that's not available plan your stop.
It does help.
It's a Taycan and costs north of £80k
Yes. He's a complete muppet. Firstly he should have planned his stops and *not* stopped at motorway services. His car would have told him better places to stop if id had half decent software. Or he could have planned using Zapmap. For example, assuming he has the larger battery, he should have stopped at Birmingham NEC superchargers and charged to 80% (past that and he's wasting time). You then plan your next two stops similarly.
He was stopping at crap chargers.
No - up to 300kwh.
Nah. A blip in the ocean.
No.
I did. He's an idiot who needs to learn how to plan his journeys properly.
Jameshow
Veteran
He was a normal driver, doing what most of us do.....
Only geeks want to plan every motorway journey and have to come off the motorway looking for chargers!
No. Normal people don't plan a challenge to drive from Lands End to John O'Groats to see which is faster, a Diesel or an EV and then deliberately set it up to fail. The challenge was pointless.
cougie uk
Guru
Not heard of the guy but I'd think he's made a disastrous video for the views.
If you want to choose the worst chargers or the worst times to recharge to have a crap journey it's pretty easy.
It's also easy enough to research your trip and select better stops.
Electricity demand is at its lowest for years even with the electric cars.
Just a few years ago all of our lightbulbs were using ten times the amount they consume now. It's probably the same with TVs and things.
And I don't know of anyone who has driven end to end nonstop. It's a pointless journey unless you depend on views for your cash.
Nobody *wants* to do this, but everyone who buys or drives an EV accepts that at the moment there is still a bit of compromise. It's not that hard to find working chargers that aren't occupied. Since he did that video, Tesla have opened up their charger network for example.
It's a 15 hour drive of 839 miles end to end. Any drive should therefore sensibly involve 7 breaks of at least 15 minutes. A normal Taycan has a real world range of about 255 miles. The Taycan can charge 70% in 21 minutes at a 225KWH charging station. Many Porsche dealers have very high speed Ionity chargers which he could have used with ease. They are seldom more than 10 minutes or so from the motorway. They get a huge discount when using those chargers.
It would have been easy for him to use the porsche network to do the majority of the trip and not added much time to his journey provided that the diesel driver stuck to the same rules about rest breaks. It would also have been massively cheaper. His insistence on charging to full added a huge amount of time (the last 20% doubles your charge time if not more) to his journey.
lazybloke
Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
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Possibly I'm thinking of the wrong forum member, but didn't you encounter a variety of charging difficulties on a long EV journey to North Wales/Eryri?
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
I'm not sure why everyone believes this. There's no current battery technology that will make a step change in range.
Hydrocarbons are remarkably energy dense.
It's reasonable to expect incremental improvements, but believing EVs will make a significant, say doubling, of range at any point in the foreseeable future is a leap of faith rather than a sober analysis IMO.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
The already have, hence why they work now.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
No idea what this sentence means, sorry!
lazybloke
Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
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I'm particularly confused by your recent assertion:
When only 7-8 weeks ago your experience was anything but easy.
When only 7-8 weeks ago your experience was anything but easy.
