Energy bill increases

[cyberknight]

I don't know but this gives some ideas
https://www.muscleandfitness.com/nu...-vs-plant-14-protein-rich-foods-go-head-head/

Meat eaters have been saying how expensive good quality chicken had become (I don't know as I've not bought any meat for 3 years), but if people are asking about how much is the cost of electricity/gas to cook a chicken for 2 hours then perhaps looking at cheaper alternatives which need much less time to cook could be considered

the pressure cooker does a joint in about 20-30 mins and its browns the meat too

 

[vickster]

the pressure cooker does a joint in about 20-30 mins and its browns the meat too

Suggest it to @Phaeton (I don't eat meat any more )

 

[PaulSB]

135W is the instantaneous level of use. And is 0.135kW.

Energy from the grid is sold in units of kWh (Kilowatt-hours), so if you have the device running at full power for an hour, it will have used 0.135 units.

And BTW, anybody who did O level physics (or GCSE later) should know the watts are the unit of energy, and are derived from volts * amps when talking about electrical energy.

That may be the case but I failed 'O' level physics 64 years ago . I didn't know what the context of 135W on a rating plate is. I now know which is a positive thing. I'm afraid "instantaneous level of use" means nothing to me and I think this demonstrates the very real problems many people face in understanding how to use energy efficiently.

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

I fancied a couple of Scotch Pies for lunch today but didn’t fancy heating the oven to 180 deg C and cooking them for 15 minutes so dug out the user manual for our Bauknecht microwave.

The fitted microwave was here when we moved in 5 years ago and we’d never done more than the basics with it. The ‘auto heat’ function looked quite good so placed the pies in and pressed the button. It fired up, turning on the grill elements and well as the microwave. 4 minutes later I had a couple of nicely cooked pies to enjoy.

Watching the smart meter mon during the process it used a similar amount of power but for a much shorter time so should be more cost efficient.

 

[PaulSB]

but what of you could do all that in a 1kw oven in an hour…….on current prices it would save you 7.8p

The general advice from well informed pundits is using a slow cooker is far cheaper and more efficient than an oven. We've done this for years not from an economy perspective but convenience and good results. It doesn't suit our lifestyle to hang around waiting for a chicken to cook. Slow cookers also cook "casserole" type dishes far better than an oven.

 

[PaulSB]

I could just sit there whilst everyone else has coffee and cake i suppose ?

I still go on club rides and have a coffee with everyone, I just don't eat which does cause people to ask why. You might take my approach which has been this. I'm openly explaining to anyone who asks, many do, I'm a pensioner and my cafe bill is +/- £25/week which I have always thought excessive. I ride three times a week and up here it's difficult to find even beans on toast for less than £4.75 plus a coffee and one quickly hits £7.50. I then go on to let people know on a limited income the current energy and cost of living increases are hard to deal with and by reducing my cafe bill around £15/week it gives me £750 towards my energy bill. Food on a 50-60 mile ride is a luxury, far from an essential.

I've been surprised by the level of interest people have to discuss this and also to learn a few people in full time employment have said they now just quietly order a tea cake instead of bacon barm, beans etc. I think you will find people open and sympathetic to a problem millions of us have to face.

 

[neil_merseyside]

I could just sit there whilst everyone else has coffee and cake i suppose ?

Take a flask and have it outside? Our club rides always allow for people having a picnic, two regulars have picnics, one because of allergies the other to save money.
I can have morning coffee to start, lunch (cake whatever) soon mounts up.

 

[PaulSB]

Take a flask and have it outside? Our club rides always allow for people having a picnic, two regulars have picnics, one because of allergies the other to save money.
I can have morning coffee to start, lunch (cake whatever) soon mounts up.

This doesn't happen in my club but used to 10 years ago when I was in another club. People on limited incomes brought sandwiches and a flask. No one thought anything of it.

 

[cougie uk]

Just have the coffee and say you're getting down to your racing weight to drop them on the hills.

 

[pawl]

This doesn't happen in my club but used to 10 years ago when I was in another club. People on limited incomes brought sandwiches and a flask. No one thought anything of it.

You may or may not remember when club runs mid day stop was usually at a CTC appointment Sandwich’s we’re always carried A large tea pot of tea was purchased and perhaps a slice of apple pie.Tea time again a CTC place ,A variety of menus some thing on toast perhaps a salad Followed by tinned fruit and cake. Back then club runs all year we’re an all day affair Happy days

 

[DaveReading]

I didn't know what the context of 135W on a rating plate is. I now know which is a positive thing. I'm afraid "instantaneous level of use" means nothing to me

The description could have been worded better. Just think of W(atts) as a measure of how rapidly the plate is depleting your bank balance when it's red.

 

[pawl]

I still go on club rides and have a coffee with everyone, I just don't eat which does cause people to ask why. You might take my approach which has been this. I'm openly explaining to anyone who asks, many do, I'm a pensioner and my cafe bill is +/- £25/week which I have always thought excessive. I ride three times a week and up here it's difficult to find even beans on toast for less than £4.75 plus a coffee and one quickly hits £7.50. I then go on to let people know on a limited income the current energy and cost of living increases are hard to deal with and by reducing my cafe bill around £15/week it gives me £750 towards my energy bill. Food on a 50-60 mile ride is a luxury, far from an essential.

I've been surprised by the level of interest people have to discuss this and also to learn a few people in full time employment have said they now just quietly order a tea cake instead of bacon barm, beans etc. I think you will find people open and sympathetic to a problem millions of us have to face.

I never stop a cafe stop I no longer do long rides maximum 40miles Usually stuff my pockets with Batanberg or similar . Will usually stop at a bench if I’m lucky Have occasionally stopped for a coffee.

 

[ColinJ]

That may be the case but I failed 'O' level physics 64 years ago

Or was it 'O' level maths?

I thought that you are only a few years older than me, and I took my 'O' levels 50 years ago!

 

[ColinJ]

Let them know how you really feel then.
They always appreciate honest reviews/reports.

I just did. Let's see what happens now...

The thing I feel slightly concerned about is whether the engineer gets the blame for this. He said that the problem is the unavailability of parts. If true, then that is not his fault. I would like to know though why the information that unavailable parts are needed is not recorded somewhere so I don't keep getting engineers turning up, taking one look, and saying that the required parts are lacking!

 

[classic33]

I just did. Let's see what happens now...

The thing I feel slightly concerned about is whether the engineer gets the blame for this. He said that the problem is the unavailability of parts. If true, then that is not his fault. I would like to know though why the information that unavailable parts are needed is not recorded somewhere so I don't keep getting engineers turning up, taking one look, and saying that the required parts are lacking!

Chances are the computer system disagrees with what the engineers knew all along. The parts weren't available, but taking the word of a person over what the computer says isn't done lightly or very often.