Driverless Nissan nearly takes out cyclist

[stedlocks]

I don't know whether someone has already mentioned it, but I know I worry about this....apparently, Mercedes have adopted an algorithm that prioritises the driver/occupants so much, that if the 'options' are either hit a fence or hit a cyclist/pedestrian/mother and baby etc, then it will take the softer, sqidgier option. I find that a bit scary, particularly when the artificial intelligence will make that decision based on what a computer decides is the best option......and of course, computers are infallible?

 

[Inertia]

I don't know whether someone has already mentioned it, but I know I worry about this....apparently, Mercedes have adopted an algorithm that prioritises the driver/occupants so much, that if the 'options' are either hit a fence or hit a cyclist/pedestrian/mother and baby etc, then it will take the softer, sqidgier option. I find that a bit scary, particularly when the artificial intelligence will make that decision based on what a computer decides is the best option......and of course, computers are infallible?

That was a while ago and I think Mercedes denied it at the time. The best solution is to not hit anything and a driverless car probably offers us the best chance to attain that goal.

 

[jarlrmai]

I think they backtracked once they realised that saying the driverless car will protect the driver ahead of others only really sold the idea to potential buyers. The dichotomy still exists. Humans have a 'survival instinct' that is very hard to argue against in legal proceedings but if a car is programmed to do something ahead of the incident happening that can be challenged in court.

 

[stedlocks]

Still don't trust em!

 

[gaijintendo]

I'm holding out for cyclistless bicycles.

 

[MacB]

Still don't trust em!

which is fair enough but are they likely to be more or less trustworthy than their existing meatware counterparts?

Can you imagine cycling everywhere and not having to guess what the drivers around you are going to do? Not having that little knot in your stomach as you come to a large/complex/fast junction or see a sideroad ahead as you're going at speed.

 

[Inertia]

Still don't trust em!

I don't trust car drivers either but I think its less likely for a self driving car to be; farking around with their phone, radio, newspaper, breakfast or whatever else they think is more important than my safety.

 

[jefmcg]

That was a while ago and I think Mercedes denied it at the time. The best solution is to not hit anything and a driverless car probably offers us the best chance to attain that goal.

Yes, I have never got close to a situation where I have had to chose between endangering myself and endangering others. I believe that situation will be rare in the extreme in a thoughtfully driven vehicle, controlled either by wetware or software.

 

[Inertia]

Yes, I have never got close to a situation where I have had to chose between endangering myself and endangering others. I believe that situation will be rare in the extreme in a thoughtfully driven vehicle, controlled either by wetware or software.

I think someone posted this recently, it seems appropriate

 

[jefmcg]

I think someone posted this recently

I think that someone may have been me

 

[Inertia]

I think that someone may have been me

oops

 

[stedlocks]

I'm going to have to learn computer code though, so I can rant at them properly!

And I wonder how they react if their wing mirror gets a *ahem* caress?

 

[MacB]

I'm going to have to learn computer code though, so I can rant at them properly!

And I wonder how they react if their wing mirror gets a *ahem* caress?

Risky, you've seen Transformers yeah?

 

[Inertia]

Interesting article on the subject of sensors

Cutting out the human error that causes 90 percent of crashes could start to save some of the 35,000 lives lost on American roads every year. Manufacturers are convinced that people will happily use at least partially autonomous cars when they’re proven to be safer than human drivers, but that’s a pretty low bar.

https://www.wired.com/story/why-self-driving-cars-need-superhuman-senses/