Disgusting excuse of a cyclist 🤷‍♂️

[HLaB]

A car horn can be used to signal danger so playing devils advocate the car driver may have hit the horn to warn of a dangerous situation arising. I did that seeing a car turn left through a red light with a pedestrian crossing arounf the corner.

It would be nice if more horns were used that way or a friendly hoot to say 'hello I'm here' but because the vast majority are an aggressive 'Get Out ta Way' etc people often react negatively to them and situations are escalated

 

[All uphill]

Is it me or has there been a spate of new threads criticising cyclists?

Almost like there's an agenda.

 

[winjim]

It would be nice if more horns were used that way or a friendly hoot to say 'hello I'm here' but because the vast majority are an aggressive 'Get Out ta Way' etc people often react negatively to them and situations are escalated

I can't remember the model but I've definitely had a hire car with a secondary, less aggressive horn specifically for alerting cyclists to your presence.

 

[Sea of vapours]

It would be nice if more horns were used that way or a friendly hoot to say 'hello I'm here' but because the vast majority are an aggressive 'Get Out ta Way' etc people often react negatively to them and situations are escalated

Notwithstanding that this instance may have been intended as a rebuke, which is mis-use of the horn and unwise due to being seen as provocative, the UK attitude to horns is decidedly unfortunate, as well as not in keeping with the Highway Code, which specifically suggests the use as a warning of 'I am here'. Having just cycled the length of Italy, I was surprised and impressed that it's very common indeed in Italy to give a brief, non-aggressive horn sound / blip to signal presence, particularly when about to overtake. It would be excellent if people did this in the UK. Unfortunately, it seems to be seen as aggressive by just about everyone here :-\ Perhaps Italian cars have this secondary horn @winjim mentions above? Perhaps Italian drivers are actually taught to use the horn this way in driving lessons too?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Ok we have all seen cyclist jump the lights, but this guy in his late 50’s gave a real bad name to cyclists around my area in Surrey.
Sat as a passenger four cars back from this disgusting excuse of a cyclist. He jumped the lights and as he did a young lady waiting at the lights tapped her horn once, very quickly. The guy on the bike gave her the finger as he went through. The lights changed and he Rode dead centre to prevent the young lady from overtaking and started giving her the W-anchor sign. The next car he gave them the thumbs up and the next.
The guy was dressed in all the gear.
That guy was so lucky someone who would not put up with that, wasn’t driving behind him!!!

Direct to ignore you go.

 

[blackrat]

Is this thread all about how to use or a horn - or not? Or about a cyclist acting like a prat? It's all a bit confusing.
Where I live - not there or here - if a driver is slow getting off the mark at a traffic light he gets a toot or two. I he acts like a prat endangering other road users he gets a full on blast. If he strays out of his lane he gets a reminder beep. People are far too sensitive if a horn upsets them.

 

[winjim]

Is this thread all about how to use or a horn - or not? Or about a cyclist acting like a prat? It's all a bit confusing.
Where I live - not there or here - if a driver is slow getting off the mark at a traffic light he gets a toot or two. I he acts like a prat endangering other road users he gets a full on blast. If he strays out of his lane he gets a reminder beep. People are far too sensitive if a horn upsets them.

If you've already established that someone's a dangerous prat, then why would you antagonise them? What good can possibly come of it?

 

[diplodicus]

If you've already established that someone's a dangerous prat, then why would you antagonise them? What good can possibly come of it?

Well sometimes its a heat of the moment thing. Rationally no good comes of it, but I'm sure we have all been close passed at some point and reacted

 

[blackrat]

If you've already established that someone's a dangerous prat, then why would you antagonise them? What good can possibly come of it?

We are not made to roll over and play dead.

 

[winjim]

Well sometimes its a heat of the moment thing. Rationally no good comes of it, but I'm sure we have all been close passed at some point and reacted

Yeah but part of good roadcraft is accounting for and mitigating other people's mistakes and not reacting emotionally. A close pass might provoke a fear response which is one thing, but in the case of the OP we're talking about an RLJ. The woman in question was not in physical danger.

We are not made to roll over and play dead.

I don't know what that means. I'm asking how it helps.

 

[diplodicus]

Yeah but part of good roadcraft is accounting for and mitigating other people's mistakes and not reacting emotionally. A close pass might provoke a fear response which is one thing, but in the case of the OP we're talking about an RLJ. The woman in question was not in physical danger.


I don't know what that means. I'm asking how it helps.

It doesn't help, you are right.
However we are emotional creatures that don't always react rationally...