Do bin men deserve a pension ??!

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[QUOTE 1657697, member: 45"]It was your mistake. Stop blaming him for it.[/quote]
Last week I pulled over in my Audi Q7 4.2 TDI Quattro S Line to help a blind women across a busy road - it's not my fault she's blind but I did the decent thing. The bin man saw my mistake and with very little effort he could have rectified it. He chose not to. I'm blaming him for having a selfish attitude. The selfishness of the south is obviously transferring itself northwards via Birmingham through the local authorities whose employees have clearly have been affected by their once ring-fenced cushy existence being obliterated by the recession.

 

[dellzeqq]

I wondered how long it would take for the pompous deviant to chuck his/her tuppence worth in the ring

as in - you wish you could post stuff you haven't thought about and get away with it?

 

[PBancroft]

If he had emptied the bin, I would have known he had gone the extra mile (or 2 feet )

I doubt you would have noticed. A lot of the work that the mean-spirited jobsworths at the council do goes unnoticed by many people because thats the nature of the work.

You noticed because it went wrong.

and not only would it have given me a warm feeling, maybe him a warm feeling and a Christian act but next week they'd have had a nice tip toboot. Mean-spirited, just for the sake of it.....WHY?

And my reply is do something about it then. Ask your "why" question at the council, or feed back to them that their stance is unhelpful... maybe there's a reason why they do it (and maybe there isn't), but the lower chains haven't been instructed to use their own judgement.

But for some reason you are refusing to take that option, and instead choose to be angry that nothing is changing.

 

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Disappointed - I was hoping to get a couple of sentences with big words that I'd have to look up before responding - a 14 year old school girl could have written that. Get your act together.

 

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[QUOTE 1657799, member: 45"]Being blind isn't a mistake. You not moving your bin was.[/quote]

It appears it might be lost on you but it's about helping others regardless of blame/mistake/affliction or whatever.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I have incurred the wrath of my bin men. For those of you unfamiliar with "poogate", my garden was until very recently covered in poo and stuff.

I got a letter threatening me with a fine so I called them and advised that I couldn't put the bin back in. She got all annoyed and asked me why and I'm not going to lie, I
Enjoyed replying "because my garden is filled with ****ing ****. If they are happy to empty a bin coated in the contents of my bowels, then I am more than happy to oblige, but I thought they'd prefer not".

 

[brokenflipflop]

I doubt you would have noticed. A lot of the work that the mean-spirited jobsworths at the council do goes unnoticed by many people because thats the nature of the work.

You noticed because it went wrong.



And my reply is do something about it then. Ask your "why" question at the council, or feed back to them that their stance is unhelpful... maybe there's a reason why they do it (and maybe there isn't), but the lower chains haven't been instructed to use their own judgement.

But for some reason you are refusing to take that option, and instead choose to be angry that nothing is changing.

I would have noticed. I really would. I don't see the point of contacting the council - I had my bin emptied by taking it myself to the next street. I may not ever forget to shuffle it 2-3 feet forward again. As I've already said, the bin man, in my opinion, left my bin because he could. That was his decision and he was within his rights. I like to please people and I expend energy and effort to do so, regularly, for free. I pay for my bin to be emptied, it was only 2-3 feet from where they would be obliged to empty it and he chose not to overlook this small detail. It's his mentality I can't fathom - I can only guess as to why someone would be so bloody-minded.

 

[PBancroft]

I would have noticed. I really would. I don't see the point of contacting the council - I had my bin emptied by taking it myself to the next street. I may not ever forget to shuffle it 2-3 feet forward again. As I've already said, the bin man, in my opinion, left my bin because he could. That was his decision and he was within his rights. I like to please people and I expend energy and effort to do so, regularly, for free. I pay for my bin to be emptied, it was only 2-3 feet from where they would be obliged to empty it and he chose not to overlook this small detail. It's his mentality I can't fathom - I can only guess as to why someone would be so bloody-minded.

So your response is to not do anything about it, but be grumpy when nothing gets done?

Out of interest, have you previously forgotten to bring your bin forward? If so, what happened then?

 

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[QUOTE 1657820, member: 45"]No it's not. It's about you making a mistake, expecting others to make allowances for you and then complaining when they dont put right your error.[/quote]
Moderator: go-between, mediator, arbiter, diplomat.

I hope you don't go into marriage guidance homeboy

 

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So your response is to not do anything about it, but be grumpy when nothing gets done?

Out of interest, have you previously forgotten to bring your bin forward? If so, what happened then?

I did do something about the problem - I pushed my bin around the block to get it emptied.

I'm not particularly grumpy - I'm just trying to understand what goes through someones head who is there to empty my bin and on just a minor detail of bin positioning is prepared to be so mean-spirited knowing the possible inconvenience it could cause for such little effort to rectify on his part.

It has happened before but I can't blame the bin men as I left my bin in my garage but I now leave it at the end of my drive but this is the first time I've forgotten to push it forward the required 2-3 feet onto the pavement.

 

[col]

It's reassuring that at least the driver isn't half-cut when they all pile out... private bar????

Oh yes, I can understand the ones who kicked up a fuss about pay and overtime for them, as they were training in the gym, I used to too with a fireman friend, chill in the bar, and generally having a great time when they werent out doing their stuff.

 

[DiddlyDodds]

I have so many issues with bin men but its Christmas ,,,, at least they dont knock on the door for Christmas tips anymore , as what i said last time they did was not very festive.

 

[Blue]

My beef is with a council employee who for the sake of no extra effort and in my opinion just to be bloody-minded, didn't empty my bin. I fully accept that the bin man was within his rights not to empty it. My point is he left it purely because he could, but to empty it would have been no extra effort than if I have positioned it 2-3 feet further forward. This action (or non action) underlines my opinion of people employed by or contracted by the council - mean-spirited and jobs-worths. If he had emptied the bin, I would have known he had gone the extra mile (or 2 feet ) and not only would it have given me a warm feeling, maybe him a warm feeling and a Christian act but next week they'd have had a nice tip toboot. Mean-spirited, just for the sake of it.....WHY?

How would you have delivered the tip, aren't you always in bed (probably hugging your teddy) when they call?

 

[snorri]

Last week I pulled over in my Audi Q7 4.2 TDI Quattro S Line to help a blind women across a busy road

I'd just love to have that quote as a sig line, obviously I would have to change it to a Peugeot 105 but it would be none the worse of the change, in fact a little snappier, it's a good line.

 

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[QUOTE 1657842, member: 45"]You felt like a silly billy when you realised your mistake. You think that blaming a binman will take your silly feeling away.[/quote]
When I realised my mistake and I heard the bin man make a point of NOT emptying it my only thought was right, dressing gown and slippers on, walk downstairs, go outside, pull my bin around the block and leave it for the very same bin man to do what he refused to do 20 minutes earlier. My exact thoughts weren't "aren't I silly" they were "aren't some council workers peanuts". Hope that clears it up for you, although I guess it might not.