Do bin men deserve a pension ??!

[Alun]

Last year when we had that little bit of snow all the binmen packed up and went home leaving us all with overflowing bins for a couple of weeks. I found it strange that all the courier lorries got round, as did the shop deliveries and the parcel force lorries but the bin men couldn't. Back in the '60's (when you could jack in a job in the morning and start somewhere else the same afternoon) I worked on the council for a while and when snow stopped normal work we were given shovels and sent out snow clearing.

Are the bins in Harlow collected by the council? Ours are collected by a private firm. How do you know that ALL the courier lorries got round, or did you just make that bit up?

 

[martint235]

Are the bins in Harlow collected by the council? Ours are collected by a private firm. How do you know that ALL the courier lorries got round, or did you just make that bit up?

This time last year I was working in logistics dealing with a distributor. Whilst they did their best to ensure that all life-saving deliveries were made, they certainly missed a lot of normal deliveries. I'm not blaming them for it in any way as I appreciate the job they had to do, but it just shows not all courier lorries got round. And bear in mind if you're lucky enough to own a car and have on street parking, would you really want a 7.5 ton Argos lorry trying to negotiate it's way down your icy street to deliver your neighbours telly.

 

[Alun]

This time last year I was working in logistics dealing with a distributor. Whilst they did their best to ensure that all life-saving deliveries were made, they certainly missed a lot of normal deliveries. I'm not blaming them for it in any way as I appreciate the job they had to do, but it just shows not all courier lorries got round. And bear in mind if you're lucky enough to own a car and have on street parking, would you really want a 7.5 ton Argos lorry trying to negotiate it's way down your icy street to deliver your neighbours telly.

I agree, and I don't regard bin collection as being life-saving. I was highlighting what seemed to be a bit of public sector bashing. The lazy council binmen couldn't be bothered, whilst the heroic private sector completed ALL their deliveries. Perhaps Chillyuk will be able to enlighten us as to the source of his information.

 

[ComedyPilot]

This is just one of those situations where the majority of hard-working and conscientious bin men are generalised as being feckless and lazy due to the actions of one.

Just as all cyclists are labelled as RLJing maniacs, and all car drivers are homicidal 'motons' and cagers.

Now where did I hide that mince pie?

 

[brokenflipflop]

you've answered your own question by wallowing in your usual ignorance. Almost all council bin collections have been handed over to private enterprise

I wondered how long it would take for the pompous deviant to chuck his/her tuppence worth in the ring

 

[chillyuk]

I agree, and I don't regard bin collection as being life-saving. I was highlighting what seemed to be a bit of public sector bashing. The lazy council binmen couldn't be bothered, whilst the heroic private sector completed ALL their deliveries. Perhaps Chillyuk will be able to enlighten us as to the source of his information.

Although I wear glasses bloody great lorries are still visible to me as they go up and down our street. I can only speak about the estate I live on which only has two access points. The excuse from the council (and yes to the question, our bin men are private sector workers) was that the hill onto the estate was dangerous to negotiate. Yet many other heavy lorries negotiated the estate without major problems. I doubt if the bin men were gritting as has been queried. Not much gritting was done apart from the major roads and around the Civic Centre so the poor council workers wouldn't slip. The shopping centre was just a sheet of ice for best part of a fortnight. May I also point out that nowhere did I say the word "lazy" in relation to the bin men.

 

[brokenflipflop]

Last year when we had that little bit of snow all the binmen packed up and went home leaving us all with overflowing bins for a couple of weeks. I found it strange that all the courier lorries got round, as did the shop deliveries and the parcel force lorries but the bin men couldn't. Back in the '60's (when you could jack in a job in the morning and start somewhere else the same afternoon) I worked on the council for a while and when snow stopped normal work we were given shovels and sent out snow clearing.

Chillyuk, You can't say things like that, it doesn't fit in with the lefty agenda. Even if the bin men were private firms, they probably have a service level agreement with the council whereby they can down tools when they see a snowflake and they will still be paid. Have you ever had a council tax rebate when the "service" stops? No, neither have I.

 

[brokenflipflop]

[QUOTE 1657339, member: 45"]Don't be lazy, and get yourself elected.[/quote]

I don't think I'd get far with my outdated values.

 

[Noodley]

you'll be having to change your name to grumpydickflop if you are not careful...

 

[Dan B]

Do you get out much?

Obviously not as far as the end of the drive

 

[ComedyPilot]

I wondered how long it would take for the pompous deviant to chuck his/her tuppence worth in the ring

If you didn't want (certain) people to reply, then posting in a public forum (where, quelle surprise, someone may disagree with you) is a blinkin' stupid way of going about it.

 

[Alun]

Although I wear glasses bloody great lorries are still visible to me as they go up and down our street. I can only speak about the estate I live on which only has two access points. The excuse from the council (and yes to the question, our bin men are private sector workers) was that the hill onto the estate was dangerous to negotiate. Yet many other heavy lorries negotiated the estate without major problems. I doubt if the bin men were gritting as has been queried. Not much gritting was done apart from the major roads and around the Civic Centre so the poor council workers wouldn't slip. The shopping centre was just a sheet of ice for best part of a fortnight. May I also point out that nowhere did I say the word "lazy" in relation to the bin men.

So, despite the weather some (but not necessarily all) private courier firms could deliver to your housing estate, but the private firm who collect your bins could not. It doesn't have the same ring as your original posting.
My bins don't always get collected in snowy weather, it's inconvenient, but they collect everything the next time around. I don't use it as an excuse for a bit of council bashing.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I worked in the dispatch for an online gifts company a couple of years back and the private couriers we used were a lot less useful than the post office when it came to snow, getting the right address, not mistaking a bin on a kerb for a safe place to leave parcels &c.

It's all relative. Some bin men are good, some are dreadful. As with everything in life.

 

[brokenflipflop]

If you didn't want (certain) people to reply, then posting in a public forum (where, quelle surprise, someone may disagree with you) is a blinkin' stupid way of going about it.

My comment related only to time and prediction only, I never said I didn't want anyone to reply. Keep up.

 

[Dayvo]

You're all being duped by BFF!

I believe he's half Greedo, quarter Abitrary and quarter LLB.

Spit the hook out before you all swallow the rod and reel, too!