Diary of a smoker
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Peteaud
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- South Somerset
Dont worry, sheer pig headedness is winning over the gremlins.
gbb
Squire
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- Peterborough
Good on ya Pete. I wouldnt worry, i suspect most of us go through it, a tough period just when you'd like to think you've beaten it. I know i have been too, no danger of having one, but a lingering desire for one is there. I'm sat here now with a slightly heavy feeling in my chest...but i'm winning, i'm on top of it, not it controlling me.
paulw1969
Ridley rider
- Location
- Long Eaton, Notts.
as already been said, nothing to do with work Pete....your just not having a good week..smoking will not make any difference to that fact.....you would only feel worse for smoking!!...as TVC says Allen Carr speaks with wisdom.....you WILL be alright
Oh and good on you for not wanting a substitute.......now where my mints gone
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Peteaud
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as already been said, nothing to do with work Pete....your just not having a good week..smoking will not make any difference to that fact.....you would only feel worse for smoking!!...as TVC says Allen Carr speaks with wisdom.....you WILL be alright
Oh and good on you for not wanting a substitute.......now where my mints gone
Riverman
Guru
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- sur de Inglaterra
Sorry to hear about how things have been this week.
In regards to the e-cigarettes, although it's possible to be psychologically addicted to smoking, your mind may be slightly addicted to smoking, but your body is addicted to nicotine which you will continue to consume if you start using e-cigarettes. You will satisfy your cravings for nicotine immensely if you consume nicotine this way, because you are physically addicted to it and your body needs it.
Think of it this way, you're not subsituting anything really, you're just getting your nicotine hit some other way.
There are various e-cigarettes out there that may be worth trying, the one that a lot of people use are e-lites, although I've heard there's a lot better. A bonus too is that you can use them in the pub etc.
paulw1969
Ridley rider
- Location
- Long Eaton, Notts.
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nope sorry....you are very wrong.....and it would be a major step backwards for Pete or anyone who is now a non smoker.......99% of nicotine has left your body after 3 weeks....your body does not NEED nicotine as its a poison
nope sorry....you are very wrong.....and it would be a major step backwards for Pete or anyone who is now a non smoker.......99% of nicotine has left your body after 3 weeks....your body does not NEED nicotine as its a poison
Riverman
Guru
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So what else do you suggest he uses to satisfy his nicotine cravings?... and if it leaves the body, well... sigh
paulw1969
Ridley rider
- Location
- Long Eaton, Notts.
in short........nothing.....cos nicotine craving is mostly mental and not physical.....physical is no worse than a feeling of hunger and he is a long way past that.....in regards to the mental side......Pete already knows the answer...he's having a bad week...we all have them...smoking will not improve your current state of mind.
Answer me this.....how will anyone rid themselves of a nictotine addiction by substituting it with more nicotine???? Why should he or anyone put themselves back to the start of a long journey on the false pretence that they will feel better for it???
Answer me this.....how will anyone rid themselves of a nictotine addiction by substituting it with more nicotine???? Why should he or anyone put themselves back to the start of a long journey on the false pretence that they will feel better for it???
Riverman
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- sur de Inglaterra
Paul this is very wrong, very wrong indeed. Nicotine acts on a number of reward pathways in the brain and is extremely physically addictive, in some ways more addictive than drugs like heroin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Dependence_and_withdrawal
There is no disputing that it is physically addictive, the science proves this definitively and it would be very bad to advise anyone otherwise. I'm sorry pal but you're very wrong on this one.
If he's having a bad week, suffering from the effects of nicotine withdrawal is not going to help him get through it.
Plenty of people have achieved just that, infact that is the best way and the safest way to rid themselves of nicotine addiction. That is why smoking cessation or rather nicotine replacement programmes exist, they exist among other things so people can slowly wean themselves off nicotine by replacing the nicotine from tobacco with the nicotine from another source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_cessation
Nicotine is not without its problems, but it is unlikely to kill you, however, the smoke from tobbaco is likely to kill you eventually. Around 100,000 people in the UK die directly from their use of tobacco. They do not die because of the effects of nicotine, they die because of the effects of smoke on their body.
The journey from what? Smoking? Isn't that what I'm encouraging him to stop? How many people do you think who die from the toxic effects of nicotine every year? It's important he stops taking nicotine but let's at least be honest about what is most harmful here, i.e.- the smoke not the nicotine.
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
- Location
- lost somewhere
Pete, OK you had a hard week at work. It's absolutely understandable to look for some kind of crutch. At the same time, the excitement and enthusiasm for not smoking is starting to wane. Six weeks and it's pretty boring, right? Well, it is boring, but it isn't going to be difficult for much longer. Look at it another way. If you had "just the one", you would feel a complete tit, wouldn't you? You are nearly free, don't blow it.
Riverman
Guru
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- sur de Inglaterra
Apologies as I didn't realise Peter hasn't smoked anything in six weeks. That's very good going Pete. Well done. Most people would find that very very difficult so it's a big achievement. If you do however end up smoking again, I would encourage you to go down the nicotine replacement route as it's likely to be a lot less stressful.
paulw1969
Ridley rider
- Location
- Long Eaton, Notts.
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yep 6 weeks for me also this Friday.......cold turkey....now does that put my post you just quoted into context??
Sorry you are wrong......i have lived through it and i dont care what Wiki says but i may indulge you and check the links out when i get home tonight.
So what is your "vested interest" in this post by the way.....i'm intrigued......
yep 6 weeks for me also this Friday.......cold turkey....now does that put my post you just quoted into context??
Sorry you are wrong......i have lived through it and i dont care what Wiki says but i may indulge you and check the links out when i get home tonight.
So what is your "vested interest" in this post by the way.....i'm intrigued......
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Peteaud
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- South Somerset
OK
Riverman - I see where you are coming from, and as a Ween yourself off i agree with you.
Paul - You are the same as me - cold turkey (and sheer bloddyminded pigheaded stubborn screw you nicotine fairies) attitude.
I think both will / does work depending on the person and their outlook, surroundings etc.
For me personaly, i dont want a substitute, i want to be a non smoker, so i have chossen to ride it out. The first week i used a mouth squirter, it gave me cronic hiccups and tasted bloody foul, when i finished it i though f*** that i dont need it that badly, and its worked for me ever since.
I know i am going to have bad days and weeks, this being one of them.
Riverman - I see where you are coming from, and as a Ween yourself off i agree with you.
Paul - You are the same as me - cold turkey (and sheer bloddyminded pigheaded stubborn screw you nicotine fairies) attitude.
I think both will / does work depending on the person and their outlook, surroundings etc.
For me personaly, i dont want a substitute, i want to be a non smoker, so i have chossen to ride it out. The first week i used a mouth squirter, it gave me cronic hiccups and tasted bloody foul, when i finished it i though f*** that i dont need it that badly, and its worked for me ever since.
I know i am going to have bad days and weeks, this being one of them.
