Deaths when not using helmet

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Angelfishsolo

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So you did move the goalposts in a discussion about the purpose of a PhD. And you feel sorry for me for spotting that?

You mentioned that you had overseen a few PhD's. That put things in perspective for me, hence the comment. It would have seemed rude to say "That explains a few things......." before the rest of the post.
 
Once again I will state that this is like a Science v Faith debate. The only people who can see both sides are those who hold no beliefs.

I quite agree its a Science v Faith debate with me and others on the Science side and you, david k, tigger and others on the faith side.

The difference between the two is the science has a much much better track record of getting it right.
 
You mentioned that you had overseen a few PhD's. That put things in perspective for me, hence the comment. It would have seemed rude to say "That explains a few things......." before the rest of the post.


It may surprise you to learn that you don't have to be an academic to supervise a PhD. There are such things as industrial supervisors as well. So sorry your shift of the discussion to a stereotypical ad hominen was a dud.
 

Angelfishsolo

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I quite agree its a Science v Faith debate with me and others on the Science side and you, david k, tigger and others on the faith side.

The difference between the two is the science has a much much better track record of getting it right.
Is that why science is constantly updated? If it got things right most of the time we would for example not run cars on fossil fuels.
 

Angelfishsolo

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It may surprise you to learn that you don't have to be an academic to supervise a PhD. There are such things as industrial supervisors as well. So sorry your shift of the discussion to a stereotypical ad hominen was a dud.
Yes I am aware of that. My stepdad has supervised a few. Doesn't negate the comment about academia rather widdens it to others with myopic viewpoints.
 
Is that why science is constantly updated? If it got things right most of the time we would for example not run cars on fossil fuels.

Science is updated because it learns as it goes along. Faith has no need of learning, it believes what it believes come what may. I bet Harold Camping is still convinced he was right.

PS That second sentence must win Non-Sequitur of the Month.
 

lukesdad

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The majority of steps forward in human history have been made by trial and error,not science.

Id call that personal experience.
 

Angelfishsolo

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Science is updated because it learns as it goes along. Faith has no need of learning, it believes what it believes come what may. I bet Harold Camping is still convinced he was right.

PS That second sentence must win Non-Sequitur of the Month.

Why does it not follow that we wouldn't run cars on fossil fuels if science got things right. Using a finite resource to fuel anything shows a blinkered viewpoint.
 
You also need to look at new technology

This example is of advanced air bag technology being used for cyclists, and as it is in the collar of a jacket or coat would meet the desires of both camps, and also be suitable for everyone including pedestrians and motorists


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Sadly it appears from the illustration that when operated the system also rips the sleeves off your jacket and changes your sex!

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Angelfishsolo

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You also need to look at new technology

This example is of advanced air bag technology being used for cyclists, and as it is in the collar of a jacket or coat would meet the desires of both camps, and also be suitable for everyone including pedestrians and motorists


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]View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZ0qiA-jBY&feature=player_embedded[/media]


That is a very interesting idea. Is it triggered by impact or angle? Wondering if (as it stands) it could work on a Technical MTB route?
 
You also need to look at new technology

This example is of advanced air bag technology being used for cyclists, and as it is in the collar of a jacket or coat would meet the desires of both camps, and also be suitable for everyone including pedestrians and motorists

I saw that a while ago and if you study it its interesting that even with a dummy with no reflex reactions of putting its hands out and lifting its head, the head impacts are remarkably few and light.
 
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