CPR Again

[ufkacbln]

The other forgotten aspect of CPR and the unrealistic expectations from TVprogramnes is that when it does fail there is a massive effect on the individual

Every time you teach CPR you have to make the student realise that it is not always successful and in these unfortunate cases it is traumatic

I am sure that you can imagine how you would feel if you put into practice something you learned two years ago, and the patient still died

There is support for people who have been unsuccessful.... note they have NOT "failed"



You have a responsibility towards your pupils to make them aware of this, but also to make them aware of the support available

 

[fossyant]

Well done @numbnuts. We will leave the numbskulls to argue between themselves and insult each other whilst you have done a sterling service.

 

[numbnuts]

Thank you ....

 

[raleighnut]

15:27 update
You wouldn’t believe it he is sat up in bed chatting to everyone

well done @numbnuts

 

[raleighnut]

One of the issues is that to teach First Aid you ned to have some form of qualification

Gone are the old days where you used to have proven experience in First Aid before being allowed on an instructor's course, but there are still basic requirements

Schools may be under different regulations, but to teach First Aid usually requires a several day course as opposed to a couple of hours

When I did my First Aid course it took a week to complete, at the St Johns building on London Rd in Leicester (I lived 400yds away so that weeks commuting was easy)

 

[Katherine]

That's great news, @numbnuts! Thanks for the update. Well done.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

15:27 update
You wouldn’t believe it he is sat up in bed chatting to everyone

Excellent work, once is a thing, twice, wow. chapeau

 

[shouldbeinbed]

The other forgotten aspect of CPR and the unrealistic expectations from TVprogramnes is that when it does fail there is a massive effect on the individual

Every time you teach CPR you have to make the student realise that it is not always successful and in these unfortunate cases it is traumatic

I am sure that you can imagine how you would feel if you put into practice something you learned two years ago, and the patient still died

There is support for people who have been unsuccessful.... note they have NOT "failed"



You have a responsibility towards your pupils to make them aware of this, but also to make them aware of the support available

Interesting

In 20 years I've never been taught that it is anything more than a means of acting as a external pump for someone until professional help arrives, not that it is a way of restarting the heart and that the TV programmes where you do a couple of rounds of CPR then someone splutters, sits up and you all head off down the The Winchester for a nice cold pint are a total fantasy.

Further, that my expectations should always be that I may well be circulating blood around an already dead person and at the best I am buying them time for proper help to arrive.

Never in all the first aid courses that I've done has the notion of personal failure come up because the expectations and realities of what CPR is have been made very clear from the outset.

 

[ufkacbln]

Interesting

In 20 years I've never been taught that it is anything more than a means of acting as a external pump for someone until professional help arrives, not that it is a way of restarting the heart and that the TV programmes where you do a couple of rounds of CPR then someone splutters, sits up and you all head off down the The Winchester for a nice cold pint are a total fantasy.

Further, that my expectations should always be that I may well be circulating blood around an already dead person and at the best I am buying them time for proper help to arrive.

Never in all the first aid courses that I've done has the notion of personal failure come up because the expectations and realities of what CPR is have been made very clear from the outset.

We had a range of students including fire fighters, aircrew and others.

At the start of the first day we used to have a quick introduction, including any experience they had, and also encouraged participation. It was common for at least one person on the course to have some experience of CPR, and not always good. Others would always ask questions such as "What happens if I am too tired to carry on", and most would have some preconceived ideas.

For many the perception was that the patient would quickly improve, and it was balancing the benefits of CPR and what they really expected to achieve

 

[T4tomo]

15:27 update
You wouldn’t believe it he is sat up in bed chatting to everyone

Excellent, pity you have to wade throw pages of drivel to find out the good news!

 

[jefmcg]

For many the perception was that the patient would quickly improve, and it was balancing the benefits of CPR and what they really expected to achieve

If I used movies to guide me on CPR , I'd expect the patient to remain unresponsive until I grabbed her by the shoulders , shaken her and said "God-damn it, you're a fighter"

 

[deny26]

Well done I think saving someone's life is most difficult. As I see the importance of CPR than truly decided to take CPR training for handling emergency situations.