Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
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It's always gets awkward when people have to be selected...
No if you can't get it you can't spread it.That brings to mind another point. Take the vaccine and you protect yourself, obviously; but can you still be a carrier and therefore a spreader? In which case not a lot is going to happen with regards to movement restrictions for a long time yet.
The numbers seem unlikely but as they have difficulty telling the truth we simply don't know.And are supposed to believe that China has only had 86,361 cases and only 4,634 deaths?
No if you can't get it you can't spread it.
I agree, at 60 i am presumably in the first(ish) catchment group, yet feel getting it will not provide me with any greater protection than the way I am living my life currently, we are being careful who we come in contact with, we only go out when necessary, if a place looks to have too many people we go elsewhere, we choose our shopping times very carefully, we wash our hands or use sanitiser after each shop visit.Can't help thinking it would be better to immediately vaccinate everyone who's daily job brings them into regular contact with others first to limit the possible spread... ie hospital staff, health workers, teachers, retail, delivery people... then people at risk, then the rest of us.
My sister (65) who is a type 1 diabetic, nearly blind, looks after my brother in law (85) who has severe Parkinson's and my father (96) who has vascular dementia, they all should qualify for the vaccine, but is as they are currently doing keeping themselves away from everybody not just as effective & less risk?Unpaid care givers need to get in a head up in the 1st stage. They have yet to be included than let's talk about who else lives up the list.
Who puts who at risk many everyday work is not simple to work out. Many are not around risk groups long enough to be of any more risk than most of us.
Interesting possible cross immunity effects in those who have previously had the MMR vaccine, potentially explaining the lack of disease severity in younger age groups.
https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20
Also, Dr John Campbell's take on the findings
View: https://youtu.be/zdAPgglDJAU
I agree, at 60 i am presumably in the first(ish) catchment group, yet feel getting it will not provide me with any greater protection than the way I am living my life currently, we are being careful who we come in contact with, we only go out when necessary, if a place looks to have too many people we go elsewhere, we choose our shopping times very carefully, we wash our hands or use sanitiser after each shop visit.
My sister (65) who is a type 1 diabetic, nearly blind, looks after my brother in law (85) who has severe Parkinson's and my father (96) who has vascular dementia, they all should qualify for the vaccine, but is as they are currently doing keeping themselves away from everybody not just as effective & less risk?
The numbers seem unlikely but as they have difficulty telling the truth we simply don't know.
We're supposed to phone the study team if we start to develop symptoms or anything. When my colleague tested positive he gave them a call but said they weren't interested as he was asymptomatic. I guess with the 62% efficacy for the dosing regime we're (probably) on and the absence of severe illness in the trial group, there is a good chance that he's had the vaccine after all.Nobody knows yet.
The primary endpoint for the study announced today is symptomatic COVID. They also test weekly, but haven't reported yet, so we don't know if less people tested positive on the vaccine.
And there is uncertainty on the extent to which asymptomatic cases shed virus and spread the disease
So whilst there is good reason to believe a vaccine will reduce or even stop spreading to a large extent, there is little concrete evidence to go on yet.
Check out "Typhoid Mary" if you really believe that.No if you can't get it you can't spread it.
No if you can't get it you can't spread it.
From the press release I linked to.Check out "Typhoid Mary" if you really believe that.
That's not far enough away, we were due to go to Florida, in early October, I've rebooked mid September next year, I'm not expecting to be able to go.In other news Easter is delayed to August next year