COVID Vaccine !

[lane]

Because they are based on morbidity and mortality data from coronavirus presumably

Yes I know. On the other hand that was known quite early on and people were told, so people have had a year to do something about it themselves. You could argue that if they haven't that's really their problem.

 

[matticus]

How often do the morbidly obese move out of that category in 10 months?
How has Biffer Boris done in this regard, after his moment of insight?

 

[Julia9054]

Yes I know. On the other hand that was known quite early on and people were told, so people have had a year to do something about it themselves. You could argue that if they haven't that's really their problem.

Weight is a lot, lot more complicated than that.
Also all the research into health behaviours will tell you that making difficult lifestyle changes is even more difficult in times of stress

 

[lane]

How often do the morbidly obese move out of that category in 10 months?
How has Biffer Boris done in this regard, after his moment of insight?

Fair point. Morbidly obese does suggest someone very fat, probably would take a while to get down to an appropriate size.

 

[vickster]

Yes I know. On the other hand that was known quite early on and people were told, so people have had a year to do something about it themselves. You could argue that if they haven't that's really their problem.

Jesus wept...

 

[Julia9054]

Vaccination priorities are not about who is most deserving. It’s not even really about who will personally benefit the most.
It is
1. Who is most likely to die/be seriously ill therefore overwhelm NHS resources
2. Who needs to keep working/not pass it on to vulnerable people so that others don’t die and the NHS can keep functioning.

 

[Ajax Bay]

For ease of access (expect all on here have read this through, some several times):

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advice on priority groups for COVID-19 vaccination, 30 December 2020 (Updated 6 January 2021) - advises that the first priorities for the current COVID-19 vaccination programme should be the prevention of COVID-19 mortality and the protection of health and social care staff and systems. Secondary priorities could include vaccination of those at increased risk of hospitalisation and at increased risk of exposure, and to maintain resilience in essential public services.

 

[Ajax Bay]

You could argue that if they [morbidly obese people] haven't [moved themselves out of that category] that's really their problem.

You could but:
a) this is the vaccine thread,
b) giving them a vaccination as a priority (Gp 6) is to address the community problem that they are more likely to need hospital admission and stays therein, and other valuable resources.
So it's OUR problem, and the JCVI prioritisation is our balanced way of addressing it.
In the meantime, they would be well advised to take a (double a 75kg person's) daily wedge of Vitamin D3.

 

[Blue Hills]

Jesus wept...

Well it made me laugh amidst this hell, which is welcome, more use to my health than a shot of religion.
Glad i checked back in.
Note,not criticising lane.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Note,not criticising lane.

Why you no criticise @lane ? No laughing matter (100+psi in rear wheel).

 

[lane]

Could consider running 32mm tubeless

 

[SpokeyDokey]

For 21 Jan:

410 000 first doses in a day which is brilliant.

5 380 000 first doses in total.

467 000 second doses in total.

Estimated R number 0.8 - 1.0 (improving) as of 22 Jan.

Good news as per previous days - not getting many 'likes' though.

 

[midlife]

Have been stood down from my redeployment as a vaccinator. Been told there are enough to do the job for the time being..........back to teeth !

 

[kingrollo]

Have been stood down from my redeployment as a vaccinator. Been told there are enough to do the job for the time being..........back to teeth !

Yes I'm hearing similar. Law of diminishing returns - more vaccinators = more jabs ...up to a point.

But we will run out of willing arms - and vaccinators will stand idle. At least until we move onto the next group.

 

[mjr]

"A simplistic formula used to distribute coronavirus vaccines that did not take into account the size of GP practices has meant fewer people receiving one in London, according to the mayor, Sadiq Khan." https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...n-london-missed-out-on-early-share-of-vaccine