COVID Vaccine !

[IaninSheffield]

GPs just interviewed on BBC expressing concern at latest govt pivot (acting on the advice of the JCVI):
"Therefore, given data indicating high efficacy from the first dose of both Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca vaccines, the committee advises that delivery of the first dose to as many eligible individuals as possible should be initially prioritised over delivery of a second vaccine dose. This should maximise the short-term impact of the programme."
With only a week until first recipients of the vaccine were due to receive their 2nd dose, I can understand GPs' concerns, not only having to deal with practicalities involved in cancelling appts., but also in the potential (likely?) diminution of trust in the programme.
FWIW, I share the GPs' concerns. Some CC members have received their 1st dose; I'd be interested to hear how they feel about this.

 

[Chromatic]

GPs just interviewed on BBC expressing concern at latest govt pivot (acting on the advice of the JCVI):
"Therefore, given data indicating high efficacy from the first dose of both Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca vaccines, the committee advises that delivery of the first dose to as many eligible individuals as possible should be initially prioritised over delivery of a second vaccine dose. This should maximise the short-term impact of the programme."
With only a week until first recipients of the vaccine were due to receive their 2nd dose, I can understand GPs' concerns, not only having to deal with practicalities involved in cancelling appts., but also in the potential (likely?) diminution of trust in the programme.
FWIW, I share the GPs' concerns. Some CC members have received their 1st dose; I'd be interested to hear how they feel about this.

My dad had his first dose two weeks ago today and this afternoon received a phone call telling him the second dose, due next Thursday, will be rearranged for a different date, no indication as to when he will receive it, he must wait for a letter telling him when.

Pissed off is how he feels.

 

[Mo1959]

Sounds a bit concerning given the way it was initially stressed how important it was that you went for your second dose within the time frame. Doesn’t fill me with confidence.

 

[Edwardoka]

Apologies for the link to twitter, but if I'm understanding this correctly, there is NO scientific basis for the change to vaccination schedule, such a change is completely untested and Pfizer are coming out against it?


View: https://twitter.com/TheDA_UK/status/1344641247806435330


Someone please correct me. I'm really terribly keen on this not being the case.

 

[midlife]

No evidence, but loads of my NHS colleagues have had the first dose and have been given dates for the second dose..

 

[guitarpete247]

When I looked on the Omni site last week I could expect the jab April or May. Today, after the Astra Zeneka news, its September or October. What has happened?

 

[Blue Hills]

Mum, mum's sister and her husband had the jab yesterday (semi rural lancs) to then be told the new 12 week plan.
Can't read the doc's letter above.
Was hoping to visit mum soon - may need to delay.
Off to see how effective a single jab is.
Yes I think this last minute announcement undermines trust.

 

[Julia9054]

When I looked on the Omni site last week I could expect the jab April or May. Today, after the Astra Zeneka news, its September or October. What has happened?

It would be good if the calculator could show when people will get their first jab.
That should now be earlier if the vaccination regime has changed

 

[potsy]

According to omni I will be fully vaccinated sometime between January and June 2022

 

[vickster]

According to omni I will be fully vaccinated sometime between January and June 2022

Ditto but I’m not surprised being under 50 and meeting none of the occupation/health criteria

 

[rualexander]

That omni calculator is clearly nonsense.
It tells me there are up to 24 million people in front of me in the queue.
Assumes a vaccine uptake of 70%.
Therefore 17 million in front of me.
It assumes a rate of vaccination of 1 million per week.
So I should get first dose after 17 weeks which is around end of april, and second dose 12 weeks later around end of july.
And yet it says I can expect to receive two doses and be fully protected by between mid october and early december.
🤔

 

[srw]

So I should get first dose after 17 weeks which is around end of april, and second dose 12 weeks later around end of july.

Each person in front of you in the queue needs two doses. That doubles your wait.

 

[Milzy]

It’s going to take a year to roll out. We will have a good few big spikes before then. Also many vaccines won’t work. People think it’s going to be a better year but it will be just more of the same. Roll on 2022.

 

[nickyboy]

Apologies for the link to twitter, but if I'm understanding this correctly, there is NO scientific basis for the change to vaccination schedule, such a change is completely untested and Pfizer are coming out against it?


View: https://twitter.com/TheDA_UK/status/1344641247806435330


Someone please correct me. I'm really terribly keen on this not being the case.

Firstly, I'm not a specialist in this area so I am not able to independently corroborate the following:

1. Pfizer cannot support increasif the time from 1st to 2nd jab as their trial was only done on 21 days. They are heavily regulated in what they can and cannot say
2. Apparently it is about 80% effective after 1st jab, increases to 95% after second
3. We don't know if that 80% figure reduces in the extended period up to the 2nd jab. However other vaccines (such as Astra Zeneca) don't show fall off

The relatively slow vaccine roll out, coupled with the new variant which has higher transmissibility has left a choice; vaccinate say 5m to 95% or 10m to 80%. Not great if you were due the booster but now aren't. But if the immunity works like this it is a better solution for all.

 

[Rocky]

According to omni I will be fully vaccinated sometime between January and June 2022

Is that because you are 14?