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vickster

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Astra Zenica say they can provide 2 million a week would have thought getting into people's arms is the easy bit.
Well you do need someone trained to do it, but they are recruiting volunteers from the NHS volunteer pool to be trained up and support the admin side (I've had several messages asking me to sign up but I can't walk at the moment :laugh: )
 

lane

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Well you do need someone trained to do it, but they are recruiting volunteers from the NHS volunteer pool to be trained up and support the admin side (I've had several messages asking me to sign up but I can't walk at the moment :laugh: )

They have enough people already to give the flu vaccine and think that's similar numbers. Our Doctors have stopped doing lots of things so must have some spare capacity as well. Plus there are lower levels of flu and colds so they can't be as busy as usual.
 

vickster

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They have enough people already to give the flu vaccine and think that's similar numbers. Our Doctors have stopped doing lots of things so must have some spare capacity as well. Plus there are lower levels of flu and colds so they can't be as busy as usual.
I don't think that's necessarily the case given the numbers involved and how busy hospitals are and also the fact that more care will need to be taken between patients than in normal times. I believe St John's ambulance will be involved too.

I expect GP surgeries just have a doable rather than excessive workload! Not sure what they've stopped doing (still routine screening etc)
 
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kingrollo

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I don't think that's necessarily the case given the numbers involved and how busy hospitals are and also the fact that more care will need to be taken between patients than in normal times. I believe St John's ambulance will be involved too.

I expect GP surgeries just have a doable rather than excessive workload! Not sure what they've stopped doing (still routine screening etc)
If there's a way to feck this all up - it's to rely on GP surgies. Just hire some space and blast through the numbers.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the at risk groups would be broadly aligned with those who get a free flu jab (other than pregnant women and children for whom the vaccines aren’t (currently) indicated)?
Here's the official recommendation:

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https://assets.publishing.service.g...oups-for-covid-19-vaccination-30-dec-2020.pdf

would have thought getting into people's arms is the easy bit.
Extremely difficult, though a bit easier with the version that doesn't need to be refrigerated. Somewhere in the thread I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation which suggested that even at the peak of flu vaccinations they weren't doing 2 million per week. Unless I've missed a change, the advice for this one is that once you've been vaccinated you need to be kept under observation for 15 minutes. If you're vaccinating 1 person per minute (which is the rate they managed for flu at our local surgery - in six vaccination stations around the surgery ) that means that for each vaccination station you need a very large holding pen for 15 grumpy adults kept 6 foot apart from each other, and in most places also somewhere to hold and move a hundred or so cars.

My local surgery essentially did most of the flu vaccine process outdoors - the only bit that was actually under cover was the jab. Fortunately on the day I went it was dry.
 
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lane

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Well for example the asthma clinics gave been cancelled at my GPs since March so what has that nurse been doing ?
 

vickster

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Well for example the asthma clinics gave been cancelled at my GPs since March so what has that nurse been doing ?
Smear tests for example ;) Patching up damaged cyclists with a gungy elbow ;)

Managing the potentially nasty symptoms of long Covid :sad: ?

If you need an asthma review, request one :okay:
 

lane

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I don't need one waste of time - GP made me have it although now it's not required so it must have freed up time

Don't think out GP would patch up anyone send you to A and E
 

vickster

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I don't need one waste of time - GP made me have it although now it's not required so it must have freed up time

Don't think out GP would patch up anyone send you to A and E
I’d been to A&E, I needed a wound check and a fresh dressing to replace the gungy one applied by paramedics. Certainly the role of a GP practice nurse :smile: not A&E in the middle of a pandemic!
 
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BoldonLad

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Unless I've missed a change, the advice for this one is that once you've been vaccinated you need to be kept under observation for 15 minutes. If you're vaccinating 1 person per minute (which is the rate they managed for flu at our local surgery - in six vaccination stations around the surgery ) that means that for each vaccination station you need a very large holding pen for 15 grumpy adults kept 6 foot apart from each other, and in most places also somewhere to hold and move a hundred or so cars.

My local surgery essentially did most of the flu vaccine process outdoors - the only bit that was actually under cover was the jab. Fortunately on the day I went it was dry.

My eldest daughter (NHS Nurse Practitioner), has been doing Covid Vaccinations for a few weeks now (ie, since Pfizer vaccine approval). They are doing them in former walk-in centres (now defunct), in the area where she is working. She is doing 1 day per week vaccinations and 4 days per week her "normal" job.

I spoke to her over the Christmas break, and, asked about the "observation period", as you say, 15 minutes "observation".

Until now, they have been doing those 80 and over, plus Health Workers etc.
 

lane

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They used to make me wait at the surgery after the flu vaccination - then one year it was no longer necessary. I guess with the covid vacination.being new they need to be more careful.
 
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kingrollo

kingrollo

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I’d been to A&E, I needed a wound check and a fresh dressing to replace the gungy one applied by paramedics. Certainly the role of a GP practice nurse :smile: not A&E in the middle of a pandemic!
But that's why people go straight to A+E....they do stuff !!!!

I would direct resources away from GP surgeries to hospital walk in centres.
 

vickster

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But that's why people go straight to A+E....they do stuff !!!!

I would direct resources away from GP surgeries to hospital walk in centres.
Huh? The nurse at the GP practice did everything perfectly well at the time booked within 10 minutes.
I had spent about 5 hours at A&E a few days before, most of which was spent sitting around in pain waiting to see someone or have something done which took 10 minutes ... even though I arrived by ambulance.

GP surgeries deal with straightforward or chronic issues. Those are not appropriate for A & E or a walk in centre
 
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