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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
seems like my CCG are sticking to the 6 month rule as well..........

https://northcumbriaccg.nhs.uk/dropins
As I understand it from what's written on www.nhs.uk, all walk-in centres are still at 6 months and only bookings have gone to 3 yet anywhere. Of course, this means I cannot simply go to a walk-in centre in another area and have to wait for Norfolk to cancel my booking. Edit: one of the neighbouring districts is ignoring national guidance in a good way and doing walk-in centres for 3 month boosters.
 
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MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
Had my booster yesterday. Absolutely shattered today. Almost pulled a sickie and come lunchtime, I wish I had. :sad:
Lesson learned.
Next time I'll book it when i don't have to go to work the following day :okay:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
As I understand it from what's written on www.nhs.uk, all walk-in centres are still at 6 months and only bookings have gone to 3 yet anywhere. Of course, this means I cannot simply go to a walk-in centre in another area and have to wait for Norfolk to cancel my booking. Edit: one of the neighbouring districts is ignoring national guidance in a good way and doing walk-in centres for 3 month boosters.
And now to complete the farce, Norfolk will be vaccinating with 90 day gap from tomorrow! https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/much-ado-about-boosters-at-shakespeare-barn-9230000/ https://norfolkandwaveneyccg.nhs.uk/vaccinations/covid-19-vaccines/covid-vaccinations
 
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Jody

Stubborn git
Anyone else in the same situation? Thoughts?

Same as you but a couple of weeks behind.

Had my booster booked for the 20th but got COVID last week. I applied for the anti body test which has yet to arrive.

Cant see the point in having my booster for a little while yet and plan to see how things pan out.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
Same as you but a couple of weeks behind.

Had my booster booked for the 20th but got COVID last week. I applied for the anti body test which has yet to arrive.

Cant see the point in having my booster for a little while yet and plan to see how things pan out.
I had lunch with a Consultant friend on Sunday, she suggested to wait 3 months from infection to booster (not least as it’s possible to have a much stronger reaction to vaccine in terms of side effects post infection).

You have to do 2 antibody tests, first within a week or so of infection, the second 3 weeks later. First will usually only show vaccine antibodies, not antibodies to virus. I don’t think everyone gets the antibody test even if say will do from what a colleague told me (as it’s more a trial)
 
Was there as much hate and issues with smallpox vaccines?

When Jenner's vaccine - which was much safer and more acceptable than the earlier, expensive and risky practice of variolation - was recommended for mass use, there was widespread acceptance and within five years of his development of it in the late 18thC it was being used widely across Europe and within ten it was in global usage.

However, opposition to Jenner's vaccination was widespread and very active in Europe and North America. It came from a variety of angles. Some felt that using materials from cattle was unsanitary, others considered that the use of 'lower animals' was 'unchristian'. Some simply did not believe that smallpox was passed from person to person, while others quoted what we would now call 'human rights'. Throughout the 19thC there were armed riots, peaceful protests and marches on Town Halls and the like by large - for that time - groups of people in many different places.
There was also a great deal of fake news and publicity, not dissimilar to today's claims of tracking microchips, 5G, magnetism and 'shedding radiation', in which pamphlets were distributed to the increasingly-literate population of the 19thC, with titles like with titles like 'Vaccination: its fallacies and evils', 'Vaccination, a Curse' and 'Horrors of Vaccination'. Claims we would today recognise as nonsensical - that vaccinated people would develop bovine features, or that vaccinated women would roam the countryside 'at certain times' looking for a bull - were made, and there were many cartoons published - which even the illiterate could understand of course - depicting the evils of vaccination as seen in the fervent imagination of cartoonists of the time.

Governments widely tried to encourage the practice of vaccination; many countries made it free and many moved towards making it compulsory, which resulted in Anti-Vaccination Leagues being formed and protests becoming more organised. Here in the UK, a conscience clause was eventually added to vaccination legislation and things quietened down considerably, at least here.

Through a combination of quarantine, understanding of disease processes, vaccination and re-vaccination, smallpox outbreaks became increasingly rare in Europe and most of the Americas during the 20thC. However, even as late as 1959, over 2 million people were dying from smallpox every year mainly in Africa and Asia.

Of course, it wasn't 'just' vaccination which eradicated smallpox - it was the disease surveillance and containment methods developed by the Czech epidemiologist Karel Raška during and post WW2 which enabled the WHO's smallpox eradication campaign to be effective.
 

Jody

Stubborn git
I'll probably not get it then as its 7 days from point of positive PCR tomorrow.

3 months sounds like a reasonable time to leave It, especially if it can be worse after infection. Had a bad time with my first shot but nothing from the second. My luck I'd have an almost symptom free dose of COVID and then get wiped out by the vaccine.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
I'll probably not get it then as its 7 days from point of positive PCR tomorrow.

3 months sounds like a reasonable time to leave It, especially if it can be worse after infection. Had a bad time with my first shot but nothing from the second. My luck I'd have an almost symptom free dose of COVID and then get wiped out by the vaccine.
Yeah I think I got mine in about 4 days (symptoms started Sunday, test Monday, think it arrived on Friday, said had to do no more than 7 days from symptoms.
 

Jody

Stubborn git
I haven't really had any symptoms. Slight headache on Tuesday but thats about it.

I'm the only person at work that hasn't been poorly with it.
 

Johnno260

Veteran
Location
East Sussex
When Jenner's vaccine - which was much safer and more acceptable than the earlier, expensive and risky practice of variolation - was recommended for mass use, there was widespread acceptance and within five years of his development of it in the late 18thC it was being used widely across Europe and within ten it was in global usage.

However, opposition to Jenner's vaccination was widespread and very active in Europe and North America. It came from a variety of angles. Some felt that using materials from cattle was unsanitary, others considered that the use of 'lower animals' was 'unchristian'. Some simply did not believe that smallpox was passed from person to person, while others quoted what we would now call 'human rights'. Throughout the 19thC there were armed riots, peaceful protests and marches on Town Halls and the like by large - for that time - groups of people in many different places.
There was also a great deal of fake news and publicity, not dissimilar to today's claims of tracking microchips, 5G, magnetism and 'shedding radiation', in which pamphlets were distributed to the increasingly-literate population of the 19thC, with titles like with titles like 'Vaccination: its fallacies and evils', 'Vaccination, a Curse' and 'Horrors of Vaccination'. Claims we would today recognise as nonsensical - that vaccinated people would develop bovine features, or that vaccinated women would roam the countryside 'at certain times' looking for a bull - were made, and there were many cartoons published - which even the illiterate could understand of course - depicting the evils of vaccination as seen in the fervent imagination of cartoonists of the time.

Governments widely tried to encourage the practice of vaccination; many countries made it free and many moved towards making it compulsory, which resulted in Anti-Vaccination Leagues being formed and protests becoming more organised. Here in the UK, a conscience clause was eventually added to vaccination legislation and things quietened down considerably, at least here.

Through a combination of quarantine, understanding of disease processes, vaccination and re-vaccination, smallpox outbreaks became increasingly rare in Europe and most of the Americas during the 20thC. However, even as late as 1959, over 2 million people were dying from smallpox every year mainly in Africa and Asia.

Of course, it wasn't 'just' vaccination which eradicated smallpox - it was the disease surveillance and containment methods developed by the Czech epidemiologist Karel Raška during and post WW2 which enabled the WHO's smallpox eradication campaign to be effective.

I think this is a meme from back then?

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So basically they used science and common sense to combat it.
 
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Milzy

Guru
Loads of people haven’t been able to get their boosters because they got Covid. What’s the point of getting boosters then if the double vax hasn’t worked?
 
I think this is a meme from back then?

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So basically they used science and common sense to combat it.

Actual science - which was little-understood - played only a small part; it was mainly astute observation which enabled people such as Jenner to proceed.
Remember that even among scientists and medical professionals, germ theory was only being accepted with difficulty as late as the 1890s.
People like Jenner, Semmelweis and others were really going out on a limb to promote their practices, which went against all that was thought of as 'common sense' in those days.
 

newts

Veteran
Location
Isca Dumnoniorum
I had the Moderna booster last Friday, felt washed out & lethargic on Saturday. My arm felt like it had been hit with a hammer for a couple of days. I'd been advised to wait 3 weeks post respiratory infection before having the booster, long covid still lingers in the background.
 
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