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lazybloke

Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
Location
Leafy Surrey
Not "didn't deserve" so much as "shouldn't be a higher priority than".
I agree NHS funding is insufficient and uneven; it could be a discussion in its own thread
But funding shortages usually relate to services other than vaccination, particularly Covid19 vaccination which has had seen plenty of cash spaffed at it.

In the context of this thread, I think funding is not very relevant, and I stiill think it it wrong to infer prioritisation from the list of hub locations.
Tiers are transient measurements hence frequent reviews, and therefore should not be a factor in choice of long-term decisions such as location of vaccination hubs.

If Boston is spiking again, then the urgent response is a high tier; and that's working - the infection rate has been falling for several days. Hopefully it will continue.
Vaccination couldn't possibly work that quickly, but given enough time it should have a bigger effect.

My keywork puts me at high risk of contracting Covid . I worry less about my health than that of my parents - they are both pushing 80 and one of them has a centenarian parent still going. Everyone knows vulnerable friends & family like the above. I'm keeping clear of my family, if I see them at Christmas it'll be a socially-distanced outdoor walk, not indoor gatherings or parties.


My sugestion to all vulnerable people is the same. Do everything you can to minimise or avoid going outside. It's only one Christmas. Use the phone to keep in touch. Socially distanced visits if essential, but take responsibility for your own health and don't listen to Boris.
 

lane

Veteran
Parents contacted yesterday lunchtime to get vaccinated next week. They live in Sleaford and will travel to Grantham. Dad told them mum has allergies so now waiting for an answer on that - think he shouldn't have said anything and he now regrets doing so.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Parents contacted yesterday lunchtime to get vaccinated next week. They live in Sleaford and will travel to Grantham. Dad told them mum has allergies so now waiting for an answer on that - think he shouldn't have said anything and he now regrets doing so.
Better to tell them than risk the medics being surprised IMO.

It's good Grantham is now up and running to cut that from a 50-mile round trip to Lincoln to a 30-mile one for them.
 

lane

Veteran
Better to tell them than risk the medics being surprised IMO.

It's good Grantham is now up and running to cut that from a 50-mile round trip to Lincoln to a 30-mile one for them.

Yes maybe you are right.
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
Some shenanigans with my Mum who is 89 and lives with my sister who is her carer. Mum was offered the vaccine, but my sister was not allowed to accompany her for it. Apparently Mum also had to sign a disclaimer, but my sister was not allowed to read it to Mum, who is registered blind. And my sister couldn't have the vaccine despite being Mum's almost full time carer.
As my sister was not allowed to accompany Mum, nor was anyone in the vaccination centre willing to accompany Mum, or willing to read the disclaimer, she couldn't have the vaccination!
I am gradually coming to the conclusion that there must be another virus which has not been identified because the level of stupidity in the last few months seems have grown exponentially.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Some shenanigans with my Mum who is 89 and lives with my sister who is her carer. Mum was offered the vaccine, but my sister was not allowed to accompany her for it. Apparently Mum also had to sign a disclaimer, but my sister was not allowed to read it to Mum, who is registered blind. And my sister couldn't have the vaccine despite being Mum's almost full time carer.
As my sister was not allowed to accompany Mum, nor was anyone in the vaccination centre willing to accompany Mum, or willing to read the disclaimer, she couldn't have the vaccination!
Refusing to read a disclaimer to a blind person and denying them service as a result sounds illegally ableist. Please urge them to contact PALS at the hosting hospital trust because that should not be.
 

lane

Veteran
Better to tell them than risk the medics being surprised IMO.

It's good Grantham is now up and running to cut that from a 50-mile round trip to Lincoln to a 30-mile one for them.

They visit hospital regularly - sometimes Grantham and sometimes Lincoln it makes no difference to them
 

midlife

Guru
Parents contacted yesterday lunchtime to get vaccinated next week. They live in Sleaford and will travel to Grantham. Dad told them mum has allergies so now waiting for an answer on that - think he shouldn't have said anything and he now regrets doing so.

This is from our website about allergies and the vaccine.

  • Please do not book an appointment if you have a history of any type of anaphylactic reaction.

It's severe allergies that they are worried about, the type that people carry epipens for.
 

lane

Veteran
This is from our website about allergies and the vaccine.

  • Please do not book an appointment if you have a history of any type of anaphylactic reaction.

It's severe allergies that they are worried about, the type that people carry epipens for.

She does not carry an epipen but has had a severe reaction to I think peanuts. However, if she can't get vaccinated at 80+ where does that leave her?
 

lazybloke

Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
Location
Leafy Surrey
She does not carry an epipen but has had a severe reaction to I think peanuts. However, if she can't get vaccinated at 80+ where does that leave her?
Possibly it leavea her waiting for a different vaccine.
Medical advice needed.
 
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srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Results of the vaccine trials are beginning to be published properly.

Oxford/AstraZeneca (23,848 people)
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and even more remarkable, the Pfizer vaccine (over 43,000 participants)
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Via https://www.covid-arg.com/bulletins, a rich mine of summary information on the emerging picture of the pandemic.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
This is from our website about allergies and the vaccine.

  • Please do not book an appointment if you have a history of any type of anaphylactic reaction.

It's severe allergies that they are worried about, the type that people carry epipens for.
If the reaction is so fast you don't have time to react, would you count that?
 
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