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Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
US trial of the Oxford-AZ vaccine results seem very promising (surprise, surprise). Hurrah! But it will apparently take several weeks for the case for authorisation for use to be assembled and presented by AZ and considered by the FDA before its use can start. Meanwhile there are 30M doses sitting in USA cold storage, not in arms.
Edit: (as per Tuesday post) The EU's supply of the Oxford-AZ vaccine is currently only produced at the Novasep plant in Seneffe (Belgium - SW of Brussels). The Halix plant outside Leiden (also Belgium) is waiting on EMA regulatory approval and if it gets it (no hurry!) could produce 5M doses a week: destination up in the air!
Edit: In UK the Croda plant outside Snaith (Yorkshire) is producing/supplying four component excipients/lipids vital for production of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
 
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Figures from Ireland for today, 21st March 2021
"Of the 769 cases notified today:
381 are men and 378 are women
75% are under 45 years of age
The median age is 32 years old
284 in Dublin,
67 in Donegal,
47 in Offaly,
45 in Meath,
44 in Kildare,
the remaining 282 cases are spread across 20 other counties."
Time to close the border??
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Time to close the border??
Inter-county travel isn't allowed at present, and there's a limit on travelling distance, exceptions provided.
Expect to get stopped.

The lower age range is the reason for posting, 75% of reported cases under the age of 45.
 

rualexander

Legendary Member
Because it's not only the vulnerable who die ?

It is only the vulnerable who die, by definition if you die you were vulnerable.
The problem is in identifying the vulnerable on an individual basis rather than the fairly crude but generally applicable age groups and pre-existing conditions groups.
There may be some, as yet undiscovered, genetic or scientifically testable identifiers which could accurately predict vulnerability to severe disease or death.
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
Didn't happen. This is me.
As I shared last week:
Here is the NHS England "COVID-19-vaccination-deployment-next-steps-on-uptake-and-supply-letter"
". . . over this next period [this month] it is vital we focus on vaccinating those in JCVI cohorts 1 –9, who are most vulnerable to COVID-19, as well as delivering to the agreed schedule significantly increased numbers of second doses, which double from the beginning of April.
"Inviting patients outside of [JCVI] cohorts 1–9 is only permissible in exceptional circumstances. Those aged 49 years or younger should not be offered vaccination unless they are eligible via a higher cohort. To ensure prioritisation compliance with minimum wastage, vaccination services must:
•Work with local authorities, voluntary community and faith sector organisations, to put in place reserve lists of people from eligible cohorts;"
I suspect filling these reserve lists will be a challenge. Most over 55s have had their jab and the programme is now catching up the final 'difficult to reach' Gp 6 (Underlying Health Conditions) and making inroads into Gp 9 (50-54). In total 28M have had their first dose. It has been suggested for months that 32M is the number in JCVI Gps 1-9 so at 400k first doses this week we should get there. Over 60% of over 80s have had their second dose.
From 29 Mar (for 4 weeks), all jabs (more or less) will be second doses, for those (mainly over 80s, care home residents and staff, and health and social care workers - JCVI Gps 1-2) who got their first dose in January: about 7M second doses are required between yesterday and 26 Apr.
 
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Pale Rider

Legendary Member
I've just been contacted by my GP surgery to tell me not to contact them about my second dose.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Harsh. I disagree with you sometimes (often), but I wouldn't deny you a vaccine.
Did they want you to sign a DNR?

I should explain I'm not being denied anything.

The text was to tell me to wait for the local vaccine hub to contact me about the second vaccine, as they did the first.

Was that off their own bat or because you asked?

Unsolicited.

It was only a text, but I'm surprised there are so many people asking about the second vaccine as to cause them a problem, particularly as they aren't doing any vaccines.

Were I minded to ask about the second, which I'm not, I would ask the mob who gave me the first.
 
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Meanwhile the eu is twisting words an definition to self declare is not a export ban.. you known the reasons for eu's joint approach.. to prevent vaccine wars.. right. Instead of making sure all those vaccines in stock in the eu are really being used. And or make sure to aid production facilities like the uk did so they might be in a better place in a few months
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
I should explain I'm not being denied anything.

The text was to tell me to wait for the local vaccine hub to contact me about the second vaccine, as they did the first.



Unsolicited.

It was only a text, but I'm surprised there are so many people asking about the second vaccine as to cause them a problem, particularly as they aren't doing any vaccines.

Were I minded to ask about the second, which I'm not, I would ask the mob who gave me the first.
Absolutely - and I think practices are notifying their patients about this because of the problems that they've had with blocked phone lines

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56456342

This Stockton practice apparently had 126,000 calls in one day - many (all?) asking about the vaccine. The worry is that people needing to contact their GP can't get through.
 
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