vickster
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I don’t want to drink with a load of stinky old blokes anyhow (hence avoiding Wetherspoons and other old men’s pubsNot having you dirty youngsters about - all banned !
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COVID Vaccine !
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Grant Fondo
Guru
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- Cheshire
Had mine at Chester Racecourse today, the guys down there are doing an incredible job as everywhere 
Rusty Nails
We remember
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And vaccinated old women, plus many middle-aged men and women.Why not? I went to the pub last summer and wasn't vaccinated.
It just means that you vaccinated old men may not get really sick or die if you do catch Covid
That seems to have been the case. I was contacted by my GP via text and have had no news about the second dose. Our neighbour booked via the general NHS website and was given two bookings, one for the first dose and one for the second.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
I don’t want to drink with a load of stinky old blokes anyhow (hence avoiding Wetherspoons and other old men’s pubs
You might not be allowed to - I was joking, then found this..
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/pub-landlords-can-bar-unvaccinated-23789700
Some potential good news in my news feed this morning. Curevac of Tübingen fame who are currently developing an mRNA vaccine have tried it out on mice to see if it works against the South African variant. They had to fool the mice's immune system into believing it had been infected with the virus, and they then injected with the vaccine.
All of the mice survived corona, giving grounds for optimism that the same effect can be realised in humans.
The EMA is continuously following these developments so that eventual authorisation will be quicker. This is expect to be in June, and 25 million doses have been ordered for Germany, and production in 2022 should run up to 1 billion doses. Big and little pharma are cooperating to ensure this is possible.
All of the mice survived corona, giving grounds for optimism that the same effect can be realised in humans.
The EMA is continuously following these developments so that eventual authorisation will be quicker. This is expect to be in June, and 25 million doses have been ordered for Germany, and production in 2022 should run up to 1 billion doses. Big and little pharma are cooperating to ensure this is possible.
From the Grauniad:
Very sensible stuff from Mr Junker & Macron
Jean-Claude Juncker criticises EU over Covid vaccine spat with UK
The EU has been overly cautious and budget conscious over Covid vaccines and should step back from waging a “stupid vaccine war” with Britain, the former European commission president Jean-Claude Juncker has said.
Juncker, who was replaced by Ursula von der Leyen in 2019, compared the EU’s approach to vaccination unfavourably with that of Britain where the rollout has been speedier.
He also said he was “not a fan” of the commission’s export authorisation mechanism under which officials have been empowered to prohibit shipments.
“This could create major reputation damage to the European Union, who used to be the world’s free trade champion,” Juncker told the BBC’s HARDtalk programme. “And so I don’t think that this is the right way to do it.
“I do think that we have to pull back from a vaccine war. I think that there is room for dialogue, for discussions, for developing arguments on both sides of the Channel. Nobody in Britain, nobody in Europe understands why we are witnessing, according to the news, a stupid vaccine war … We are not in war, and we are not enemies. We are allies.”
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“I would like the member states and the commission to speed up the efforts to provide vaccines for each and every one in the European Union,” he said. “Britain is in advance for different reasons, because Britain took the decision to have an emergency decision-based approach whereas the European Union, the commission and the member of states, were more budget conscious … We were too cautious.”
France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, told the Greek television channel ERT that he believed the EU had been too tentative in procuring and distributing vaccines.
“Everybody, all the experts said: Never in the history of mankind was a vaccine developed in less than a year. We didn’t shoot for the stars. That should be a lesson for all of us. We were wrong to lack ambition, to lack the madness, I would say, to say: It’s possible, let’s do it,” he said
“We didn’t think it would happen that quickly... You can give that to the Americans, as early as the summer of 2020 they said: let’s pull out all the stops and do it. As far as we’re concerned, we didn’t go fast enough, strong enough on this. We thought the vaccines would take time to take off.”
Very sensible stuff from Mr Junker & Macron
Jean-Claude Juncker criticises EU over Covid vaccine spat with UK
The EU has been overly cautious and budget conscious over Covid vaccines and should step back from waging a “stupid vaccine war” with Britain, the former European commission president Jean-Claude Juncker has said.
Juncker, who was replaced by Ursula von der Leyen in 2019, compared the EU’s approach to vaccination unfavourably with that of Britain where the rollout has been speedier.
He also said he was “not a fan” of the commission’s export authorisation mechanism under which officials have been empowered to prohibit shipments.
“This could create major reputation damage to the European Union, who used to be the world’s free trade champion,” Juncker told the BBC’s HARDtalk programme. “And so I don’t think that this is the right way to do it.
“I do think that we have to pull back from a vaccine war. I think that there is room for dialogue, for discussions, for developing arguments on both sides of the Channel. Nobody in Britain, nobody in Europe understands why we are witnessing, according to the news, a stupid vaccine war … We are not in war, and we are not enemies. We are allies.”
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“I would like the member states and the commission to speed up the efforts to provide vaccines for each and every one in the European Union,” he said. “Britain is in advance for different reasons, because Britain took the decision to have an emergency decision-based approach whereas the European Union, the commission and the member of states, were more budget conscious … We were too cautious.”
France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, told the Greek television channel ERT that he believed the EU had been too tentative in procuring and distributing vaccines.
“Everybody, all the experts said: Never in the history of mankind was a vaccine developed in less than a year. We didn’t shoot for the stars. That should be a lesson for all of us. We were wrong to lack ambition, to lack the madness, I would say, to say: It’s possible, let’s do it,” he said
“We didn’t think it would happen that quickly... You can give that to the Americans, as early as the summer of 2020 they said: let’s pull out all the stops and do it. As far as we’re concerned, we didn’t go fast enough, strong enough on this. We thought the vaccines would take time to take off.”
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I was half watching that when it went out very early today.
Seemed fairly reasonable from what I picked up.
There was a french MEP on channel 4 news a few days ago who said:
paraphrase:
that the EU signed identical contracts simultaneously with the UK.
Unless I am very much mistaken there is at least one total lie there.
When challenged she seemed somewhat tight lipped.
In my view the EU is looking extremely shoddy over all this.
I rather worry what some folk/citizens in the EU are being fed,
Seemed fairly reasonable from what I picked up.
There was a french MEP on channel 4 news a few days ago who said:
paraphrase:
that the EU signed identical contracts simultaneously with the UK.
Unless I am very much mistaken there is at least one total lie there.
When challenged she seemed somewhat tight lipped.
In my view the EU is looking extremely shoddy over all this.
I rather worry what some folk/citizens in the EU are being fed,
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Ajax Bay
Guru
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- East Devon
Huge number of second doses administered yesterday: 242 642. Compare that with an average 87k only a week ago.
I suspect that the vaccination centres are straining to get enough residual JCVI Gp 6(UHC) and Gp9: 50-54s on the lists so are now pulling forward those due a second dose in early April. Supply is still good (580k doses administered overall yesterday) and will be like this for a few more days.
The very clear direction from NHS England NOT to offer any more vaccines to under 50s, has meant filling the lists is difficult so the solution is to call in (fair proportion of NHS/health workers maybe, in JCVI Gp 2) those who were given their first jab 10-17 Jan (1.8M) so are due their second jab by 3-10 Apr.
More than half of people aged 11 years and over in the UK have received their first jab.
I suspect that the vaccination centres are straining to get enough residual JCVI Gp 6(UHC) and Gp9: 50-54s on the lists so are now pulling forward those due a second dose in early April. Supply is still good (580k doses administered overall yesterday) and will be like this for a few more days.
The very clear direction from NHS England NOT to offer any more vaccines to under 50s, has meant filling the lists is difficult so the solution is to call in (fair proportion of NHS/health workers maybe, in JCVI Gp 2) those who were given their first jab 10-17 Jan (1.8M) so are due their second jab by 3-10 Apr.
More than half of people aged 11 years and over in the UK have received their first jab.
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Julia9054
Guru
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- Knaresborough
Harrogate seems to be ignoring that. Several 40 something friends have had texts from their GP and are booked in in the next few days
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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The reporting of it above seems bunk. The "vaccine war" is mainly a UK press invention. The EU is cross with AZ. You could read the above comments differently in that light. Juncker always seems to be saying different things to different audiences at once.
Well, the UK AZ contract is not public, so we do not know for sure if it is a lie... Or she may be tight lipped because someone leaked the UK contract.
No one is looking great out of this.
Nothing worse than the shoot the UK press spews, mostly.
Eric Olthwaite
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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It depends who you think he is saying we should be pulling back!
