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COVID Vaccine !
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That's what demographics means, but the virus isn't bothered. It wasn't bothered in Manaus. It'll rip through these areas very quickly if things are opened up too soon and it takes a hold.
Is the future rich, rural areas with high vaccination as a % of the population areas having low cases and horrid outbreaks in urban enclaves?
Another way of looking at it, is that you may need to add 2-3 months to where we are for areas to get similar benefits experienced by other areas.
Now who's being misleading? That's a bit like someone saying to you that don't worry your offspring don't need a vaccine because in Nottingham at the start of the academic year the cases went up to above 8000 per 100,000 for 15-19 year olds.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
So 92% fresh meat ready for infection, then? (assuming that is cumulative cases)
Cumulatively over the first camel hump of the second wave it will have been huge. 15%? 25%? 50%? These are possible numbers from elsewhere in the world/UK. The rates in the age group went up to above 400 per 400,000 in the second hump of the camel though and that was when everything was shut down so it's not a fair comparison. So what would happen if it'd have been a proper start of term? I'm a bit sceptical.
Interestingly Nottingham like many other areas shows green shoots emerging for the 75-79 year olds. Or sometimes in other age groups. In other words "lockdown" + vaccines may be working better than lockdown + no vaccine. This green shoot effect is seen in many areas. This is Nottingham:-
For comparison, this is Brighton and shows that you cannot assume it's the same in every area (chosen for young population and in the South East and good old B117 going wild):-
And East Devon where it was revealed some stonkingly high %s have been vaccinated (other factors at play)
Havering:-
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Jenkins
Legendary Member
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- Felixstowe
Make that three of us.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
They really should have given you a jab each!
lane
Veteran
I am assuming those figures are based on tests, then I would imagine among that age group the actual number asymptomatic or just didn't get a test would be quite high. Also i don't think they are cumulative; the 1,000 for the populations as a whole in Nottingham was not cumulative and so 8,000 among the students sounds about right as non cumulative.
It's a bit of a side track really. The point I was making is that the 5% vaccinated figure - for an area where the vast majority are students - is really no surprise and nothing to be alarmed about. As a side issue - quite a significant proportion of that community also happen to have some immunity so it's even less of an issue.
Ajax Bay
Guru
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- East Devon
My (sensible) daughter started at Exeter uni in September and was one of about 4000 18-23 year olds who tested positive in Devon in the first 21 days. There were masses of uni provided general testing as well as, quickly, access to testing for those who developed symptoms.
But the reason someone might give for saying "don't worry your offspring doesn't need a vaccine" or at least "there's no rush" is that, in 2020 of the 674 15-19 year olds who died, only 11 died of C19 (death certificate). Obviously that's 11 too many but not enough to disagree with the person giving that advice. Unless the young person has other health conditions which make them more vulnerable. In which case (if in the UHC categories so in Gp 6) they'll have received a vaccine by 8 March.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Sorry, what was 'the issue' from which I was "attempting to divert".
Are there data on the 'hospitalisation' rates for under 20s? Entirely content to draw on those. Regrettably data on deaths have good quality and are accessible. For 'Long Covid' - on the 'to do' list. I suspect the data are not split by age group.
Thank you for "constantly" sharing 'death maps'.
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It's not just down to being students, some areas like Devon are way ahead. In just over a week from now projected to have vaccinated the first dose to everyone over 50.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14128039/ten-areas-all-over-50s-covid-jab-march-7/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14128039/ten-areas-all-over-50s-covid-jab-march-7/
Bizarre story from the US.
Pfizer vaccine can now be stored at higher temperatures for much longer. But only in the US?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...sport-Pfizer-vaccine-higher-temperatures.html
Pfizer vaccine can now be stored at higher temperatures for much longer. But only in the US?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...sport-Pfizer-vaccine-higher-temperatures.html
classic33
Leg End Member
Wonder how that affects the shelf life.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
One has had one's vaccine and one is urging everyone else to do the same.
The Queen can still grab nearly every front page when she wants to.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-56204989
The Queen can still grab nearly every front page when she wants to.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-56204989
