The real leg work will fall to practice nurses, district nurses and it’s going to need health visitors to boost the numbers (well what’s left of them after decades of running them down)
COVID Vaccine !
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newfhouse
Resolutely on topic
Might they stiff the student nurses again?
Ming the Merciless
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There’s 2 million addicts adept at reusing needles ... oh hang on.
Have the BDA been asked to look into giving it the ok to use it’s members?
midlife
Guru
I think the BDA, General Dental Council, indemnity insurers are still working under the assumption that dentists can still be redeployed. If there's a few Bob in it the BDA are at the front of the queue.
Possibly the Covid vac law change allows them give it and without supervision. If it’s along the same lines as last time. Students got asked to stay on in current placement or go back to the last one. So with this it would depend how many are on community placement at the time. Which given lack of placements access the NHS is not likely to many. That’s assuming they’d be happy to jab people on mass day in day out with little support.
The law change covers them anyway and clears the way to do them. Guess it comes down to how much the CCG’s want to pay them. With little over 12 quid each jab to play with can’t see it being much. One for the high up commissioners to fight over I think.
Pfizer say it’s needs to thawed out before you can give it and will last up to 5 days in a normal drug fridge. That makes it’s a little less complex but more room for waste.
To ones who know once we get to a full roll out. How long are we giving SystmOne before it go’s down ?
To ones who know once we get to a full roll out. How long are we giving SystmOne before it go’s down ?
I just watched the latest current events discussion, including on the new vaccine.
Prof Streeck of hotspot study fame was on, and previously having warned not to take the successful development of a vaccine for granted, said there were grounds to be optimistic on this one, but not to get too carried away.
It is though very early days. It's not known whether the vaccine prevents infections or prevents illness. No information on who the vaccine benefits most. There aren't enough numbers yet to be sure of any side-effects, this will take time. Hopefully this won't be the only vaccine that might be successful against the virus. The conditions for preserving this vaccine are going to be difficult for developing countries with poor infrastructure.
The politicians are already organising the necessary facilities to administer the vaccine - or a different one if it yet proves problematic. Realistically it is not likely to be available until early next year, and then the priority will be medical staff, carers in old people's homes, followed by older citizens and those with pre-existing medical conditions.
Long-term planning to avoid lockdown after lockdown is needed, and we will have to live with the virus at least during next year and possibly the year after, but at least life should be somewhat more normal than it is now.
Prof Streeck is a great believer in vaccines and would be happy to have the jab. His overall position was optimism yes, but not euphoria.
Prof Streeck of hotspot study fame was on, and previously having warned not to take the successful development of a vaccine for granted, said there were grounds to be optimistic on this one, but not to get too carried away.
It is though very early days. It's not known whether the vaccine prevents infections or prevents illness. No information on who the vaccine benefits most. There aren't enough numbers yet to be sure of any side-effects, this will take time. Hopefully this won't be the only vaccine that might be successful against the virus. The conditions for preserving this vaccine are going to be difficult for developing countries with poor infrastructure.
The politicians are already organising the necessary facilities to administer the vaccine - or a different one if it yet proves problematic. Realistically it is not likely to be available until early next year, and then the priority will be medical staff, carers in old people's homes, followed by older citizens and those with pre-existing medical conditions.
Long-term planning to avoid lockdown after lockdown is needed, and we will have to live with the virus at least during next year and possibly the year after, but at least life should be somewhat more normal than it is now.
Prof Streeck is a great believer in vaccines and would be happy to have the jab. His overall position was optimism yes, but not euphoria.
lazybloke
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I'm aware of 0 deaths in a trial of 40,000 volunteers.
However, 1 in 100 Covid 19 infections result in death, and some survivors will suffer from Long Covid.
With those numbers, I'm definitely taking the vaccine, assuming no contraindications.
However, 1 in 100 Covid 19 infections result in death, and some survivors will suffer from Long Covid.
With those numbers, I'm definitely taking the vaccine, assuming no contraindications.
I volunteered to take part in one of the trials, but my medical history ruled me out. Not for the vaccine but for medical trial.
RoadRider400
Some bloke that likes cycling alone
Im going to hazard a guess testing is carried out on the young and healthy. Whereas there is no restriction on who gets infected with the virus in general circulation. I wonder how the old and frail will get on with the vaccine.
winjim
Smash the cistern
It's been tested on the healthy but not just the young.
https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728
But yeah, it's the same as masking, the people who can have it should, to protect the people who can't.
