Coronavirus outbreak

[mjr]

Has the track and trace contract been awarded to a ferry company?

Well, they certainly look to be all at sea and out of their depth!

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Well, they certainly look to be all at sea and out of their depth!

Coronaberg

 

[stowie]

Has the track and trace contract been awarded to a ferry company?

It would have to be a ferry company with no ferries and only an operating license for the village pond at Coton-in-the-Elms.

 

[Unkraut]

Again, look at Germany. I think they've as many elected politicians involved as any layer of England and there have been some grumbles about the local differences early on, but by and large, the communities, states and federal government seem to have worked well together and avoided getting in each others' way.

It's been somewhat amusing to see how jealously the states/Länder guard their responsibilities as opposed to those of the federal govt, which is national policy. By and large they have been able to agree a united policy amongst all 16, though with different rates in different parts of the country this is getting a bit harder. This factor obviously goes against a one size fits all policy. It's been good to see the party political aspect fade into the background and so many political hues work together, but I do think the cooperation, like everyone's nerves, is starting to get a bit frayed round the edges. The question of how much a general lockdown should be introduced again is getting contentious in view of the longer term economic damage.

Listening to the news coming back from Frankfurt today an attempt to prevent people from who come from hotspot areas from staying in or travelling to other parts of the country has been overturned in court, as the this was considered an infringement of the constitutional guarantee to freedom of movement. It cannot be appealed either. It does show the value of a written constitution for times like these, the govt has temporarily suspended several freedoms guaranteed under the constitution under an emergency health law, but it can be challenged in court on this and has to prove any measures are actually necessary or commensurate. Helps stop govt overreach.

 

[tom73]

At long last it's been published the BMJ has now published it.
Classification of aerosol-generating procedures: a rapid systematic review
https://bmjopenrespres.bmj.com/content/bmjresp/7/1/e000730.full.pdf
@midlife maybe of help

 

[mjr]

A third of French people are now living under a curfew from 9pm to 6am, affecting a dozen or so of the biggest cities.

 

[tom73]

Look's like we can cross off Remdesivir from the list covid drug treatments.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.20209817v1.full.pdf

 

[marinyork]

Boris et al. are making promises on testing again.

300,000 test capacity has been around for ages with promises of 500,000 per day without an explanation as to where the extra 200,000 per day will appear from in the next couple of weeks.

 

[tom73]

Boris et al. are making promises on testing again.

300,000 test capacity has been around for ages with promises of 500,000 per day without an explanation as the extra 200,000 per day will appear in the next couple of days.

It's these magic "new" rapid test kits to the rescue. Not sure if they are same one's we got told was the way or some new ones that Boris has found at the back of Dido's filing cabinet.
Still no plan and still not got a clue in the mean time i've been informed our local ICU is now full all covid. Won't be long before that back tacks all way down to the line.

 

[marinyork]

It's these magic "new" rapid test kits to the rescue. Not sure if they are same one's we got told was the way or some new ones that Boris has found at the back of Dido's filing cabinet.
Still no plan and still not got a clue in the mean time i've been informed our local ICU is now full all covid. Won't be long before that back tacks all way down to the line.

Trial. And if they are lucky as they said there's enough for hospital staff and care workers then schools and universities. Which there won't be sadly.

 

[tom73]

Last night guidance on what can be done with covid test information was updated. Police can now get access to details of anyone told to isolate. Not only pretty unethical it’s yet another way to put even more people of getting testing. Won’t do much for race relations either given the high number of minorities effected by covid. This is going to play right into the hands of the anti brigade.

Whitty is not too impressed about the idea either.

“The [CMO’s office] are worried that people will simply stop getting tested because it just opens them up to the risk of being tracked by police and fined, and so the department is creating a strong disincentive to testing, which creates a big public health risk.”

https://www.hsj.co.uk/news/exclusiv...old-to-self-isolate/7028653.article?adredir=1

 

[Adam4868]

Patronizing bollox ! Might aswell just say we're doing allright down here,so please just feck the north for now.

View: https://twitter.com/JeromeMayhew/status/1317537385832394753?s=19

 

[stowie]

Patronizing bollox ! Might aswell just say we're doing allright down here,so please just feck the north for now.

View: https://twitter.com/JeromeMayhew/status/1317537385832394753?s=19

In other words "please ignore what the government's own scientific advisors are saying and trust Boris instead". Right.

Are all the signatories Tory MPs?

 

[DaveReading]

Are all the signatories Tory MPs?

If only there was an easy way to find that out ...

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Sharing NHS data with the police! This does nothing to lessen my feeling that the NHS bit of NHS test and trace is nothing but instrumentalisation. A brand reappropriated.